The exclusion of analogue material is a clear proof that digital has not yet reached the quality and emotional response of analogue photography. Instead of bitching we can see the decision as proof of analogue's superiority.
This could also be seen as a possiblity for guerillia warfare against digital. Make a superb photo with digital, win, and if it came to an interview you can say that digital is an inferior medium but that you had to use it in order to compete in this competition.
Dominik
< nikon doesn't make or sell film cameras anymore why would they have a photo contest like that ... >
How about the Nikon F6??
Whuzzup Stone?!
In a word, the painters had it easier than we do, we live in a bigger world that has the invasion of intrepid thinking called the Internet...2012 has been a bad, bad year for both film and the film user, Nikon's BS move is not helping....
Yes, he's here, sometimes on photo.net too. And of course the Kodachrome Project.
I don't understand this. What's to vet?
Make it clear stolen (or "borrowed") images will lead to disqualification. Or run all the finalist images through something like tineye. EXIF can be faked so that's no guarantee. And to exclude the work of some photographers for ease or cost reasons? To deny people a chance because they don't want to go to some trouble or to save money is unethical.
It is a medium of the past. Over 150 years of iconic images bear witness to its ability to reach people of all stations in life.
It is also a medium of the present. Film is still being made, and is being used by people with the drive and determination to realize their vision through it.
It is also a medium of the future, so long as there are companies making film, and beyond that people making their own emulsions and carbons and gum prints, just as some do now. That artistry should not be ignored.
It is not much different from painting, really. Except that successful painters receive much more money for their work.
Painting was the medium of the past, it is a highly valued art form of the present, and it will continue to be in the future, even if painters have to grind their own pigments and mix their own paints. I know one who does that now, to get what he wants.
< nikon doesn't make or sell film cameras anymore why would they have a photo contest like that ... >
How about the Nikon F6??
The F6 is a atom sized fraction of their product income who buys a F6 to try film or to start using film again? Most will buy a used film camera for 100$ before. The bulk of their income is digital, they can discontinue the F6 tomorrow without even seeing a dent on their income I dont even need to verify this.
The F6 is a atom sized fraction of their product income who buys a F6 to try film or to start using film again? Most will buy a used film camera for 100$ before. The bulk of their income is digital, they can discontinue the F6 tomorrow without even seeing a dent on their income I dont even need to verify this.
The Royal Photographic Society no longer accepts film for its International Projected Image (formerly International Slide) competition, though scans are apparently acceptable.
Very disappointing that slides, a stalwart of photography for so many years, are now excluded from the event. The RPS would undoubtedly argue that it's through lack of traditional slide entries, but if they don't allow them, well there certainly won't be any!
Steve (former International Slide Exhibition entrant, but not any more)
Well, what would you do if you were Nikon?
... telling the world that film photographers no longer matter in their long standing photo competition.
This IS a serious blow to the overall perception of the value of film based photography to the public at large and simply does not help the overall advocacy of it all. There is no reason for it
That's what I figured you meant. I was expanding on that and I guess challenging you to clarify that.I meant that just like painting, film photography has moved from the "new" art, to the "old" art, digital is the new image art, and soon it will be something else (probably 3D or something like it). So in that sense it's of the past.
Also most painters do NOT make more than photographers, not by a long shot, their paintings susally star to make money at second hand sales post mortem but during their lifetimes they are often unnoticed, only a select few are not the starving artists. This is true of photography but at least we have the option of making money, dare I mention weddings? You don't see a lot of painters doing a 6 hour wedding and walking away with $2,000-$12,000 twice a weekend for say 3 months of the year...
I don't own a DSLR, yet the maker of my SLR has made quite a bit of money with me, much more than what they make with the average prosumer DSLR kit. Many lenses, flash, service ....Well, what would you do if you were Nikon? They do have a presence in industrial and medical imaging - expensive stuff - but the cash cow at the moment is DSLSR's and amateur point n' shoot
They don't just say "analog doesn't matter any more", they say explicitly "we don't like analog", which is a completely different message if you ask me. They don't ignore us, they give us the finger. We should reply in kind. Or just yawn at their "contest".for over 20 years by telling the world that film photographers no longer matter in their long standing photo competition.
... they also nixed the emerging talent category...
Doubt I'll ever enter a contest. They all seem pretty stupid to me. But instead of everyone on APUG
whining at retreating when the first volley is fired, wouldn't it make more sense to go on the offence
and make film the superior more advanced option? Organize your own high-profile contest. Make
connections - and advertise "no digital anthing" allowed. But if you do, you'd better know how to
print.
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