Nikon Photo contest held since 1969 will not accept film images anymore

[semi-ambivalent]

I don't know if they allowed this loophole, but I use a digital camera to photograph my prints. That's not a scan.

Subversive end run on the rules!

I like it!

s-fleaflicker-a

 

[PKM-25]

Wow, pretty pathetic. I am writing my opinion to my NPS contact in NYC right now. I mean.....WTF?

 

[brucemuir]

has anyone read the rules for submission including all the boilerplate?

I haven't and don't care to...
but most of these "contests" have appalling rights/ownership requirements for entering.

 

[Bill Burk]

The submit button isn't there yet, expect Dec 1 2012. I noticed they ask for perpetual non-exclusive rights. And the prizes are all Nikon equipment. Maybe they figure we don't want any of it.

 

[brucemuir]

The submit button isn't there yet, expect Dec 1 2012. I noticed they ask for perpetual non-exclusive rights. And the prizes are all Nikon equipment. Maybe they figure we don't want any of it.

Yea see. They end up with an awesome stock image library that could theoretically compete with other stock. Maybe even against some that one of us has shot in the past.
I always looked at these things with a smirk.

 

[Stephanie Brim]

I've got to say that if I won and all the equipment was given to me, I'd probably end up giving it away to others who want to learn.

A while after my son was born and I had two kids to run around after instead of one, I embraced digital. During the earliest part of their lives, it was just too hard to keep developing film and I couldn't afford to send all the film I was running out to a lab. I got a Digital Rebel and went about relearning how to use photo editing software.

I realized something about six months in, though: I hate it. I actually HATE digital photography. The pictures I have of my kids are awesome and I don't really regret my choice, but I found negatives of my daughter recently from when she was a baby and there's just something completely DIFFERENT about them. I realized about two weeks ago that what I really wanted wasn't a 5DII/III, which is the way I was heading within a year and a half or so, but a damn Chamonix. I don't just like the images better with film, but I like the *process* better. I do enough on the computer already. Photography doesn't *always* have to be one of those things.

Nikon is really screwing up with this. People like me, who *do* use both film and digital, will likely not be supporting their brand in principle. They're going to miss out on *amazing* images. While it isn't the better business decision in the short term, I think that Nikon should look past the desire to sell as many digital devices as possible and actually come out as supporters of *all* forms of photography. Yeah, it's a pipe dream in these times, but have they looked at what's coming from film and alternative process users lately? It's obviously making a resurgence in a big way.

While it doesn't surprise me, it does piss me off and, to be honest, it's quite disappointing.

 

[Diapositivo]

The submit button isn't there yet, expect Dec 1 2012. I noticed they ask for perpetual non-exclusive rights. And the prizes are all Nikon equipment. Maybe they figure we don't want any of it.

Ah, another case of rights-grabbing :devil:
I thought Nikon would have known better. That is, I think, a bigger shame.

Promoting your cameras through a context is fine. Didn't Pentax use to make a context reserved to their 4.5x6 cameras? Rights-grabbing is much worse. Most photographers don't read the fine print, they should. They typically send to this kind of photo contests the best shots of their life, which are the ones which could easily have a value that they don't even suspect. The ordinary photographer doesn't realize the value of a good picture (a well composed picture in good light conditions, nothing extraordinary, just stuff well done).

The value Nikon is going to grab from this contest is likely superior to the cameras they give as award. EDIT: I don't know, they seem to give away rich prizes.

Out of suspicion I was looking yesterday for the fine print but could not find it (very late at night ). EDIT: I still cannot find it.

Normally rights-grabbing contests are held by publishers of books or newspapers. It is sad that Nikon married this unfair practice.

 

[TheFlyingCamera]

Canon did it too, recently. They had some contest that was a bald-faced rights grab, on an offensive level (it may have been an EXCLUSIVE perpetual rights grant by submitting!). I emailed someone at the contest in protest of the rights grab, and never heard back.

 

[brucemuir]

we should all submit as many digisnaps from a nikon coolpix we can upload to muck up the servers.

 

[canuhead]

The problem is that you simply can not tell if an image was made with Nikon gear using film. That's all.

Well a scanned image will have zero metadata and this is what they'll be looking for.

 

[RalphLambrecht]

we should send them a photograph of a nikon dslr,beaten to shreds with a hammer and photographed with a canon film camera

 

[brucemuir]

Well a scanned image will have zero metadata and this is what they'll be looking for.

Well... not zero.
My Microtek 120T tags the files with colorspace and some other stuff it just doesn't have aperture/shutterspeed and camera related data.

 

[canuhead]

yeah but zero was so much easier to type

the camera related tags are key. without those, kinda pooched.

 

[mono]

we should send them a photograph of a nikon dslr,beaten to shreds with a hammer and photographed with a canon film camera

Good one, Ralph ;-)

 

[ME Super]

Well a scanned image will have zero metadata and this is what they'll be looking for.

An EXIF editor can fix that .

 

[brucemuir]

we should send them a photograph of a nikon dslr,beaten to shreds with a hammer and photographed with a canon film camera

I got it…
a d100 pummeled with an F Photomic.
Anfd take the shot with the photomic :devil:

 

[removed-user-1]

I don't enter contests like these, but it's still disappointing. Add Nikon to the list of companies I used to admire...

It's like holding a writing contest, and insisting that all submissions be done on a word processor. No manual typewriters allowed, even though you could certainly use an OCR to scan the typed pages into a digitally-readable file format, or even just scan the pages to a PDF file.

 

[canuhead]

I realize it's Nikon and all but I have to ask in all honesty...why is everyone in a lather over this rule ? How will it affect our day to day ? It's just a contest.

 

[PKM-25]

I realize it's Nikon and all but I have to ask in all honesty...why is everyone in a lather over this rule ? How will it affect our day to day ? It's just a contest.

Because it is making a statement against film through either marketing, technical ( lack of EXIF ) or philosophical reasons that set the wrong tone, in short, it is bullshit...

I have no interest in entering the contest but I am a self appointed watchdog for film advocacy and I simply want to know why they have done this, it makes no sense.

But in terms of EXIF, problem solved easily, just scan your slide or neg with a DSLR and macro lens...;-)

 

[Prof_Pixel]

But in terms of EXIF, problem solved easily, just scan your slide or neg with a DSLR and macro lens...;-)

I suspect the contest entry form that is submitted with your photos will ask you to certify that you have complied with the contest rules. To me, it would be a matter of personal integrity not to lie by trying to pass off images that weren't taken with digital cameras.

It's Nikon's contest so Nikon's rules apply. If you don't like the rules write Nikon and tell them.

 

[brucemuir]

I realize it's Nikon and all but I have to ask in all honesty...why is everyone in a lather over this rule ? How will it affect our day to day ? It's just a contest.

ehhh, it's a slow day and the Skins got murdered again!!!

 

[lxdude]

It's Nikon's contest so Nikon's rules apply. If you don't like the rules write Nikon and tell them.

Done.

 

[Benoît99]

The handwriting has been on the wall for a while. A couple of years ago they banned MF and LF film. This year's rule takes the next step and bans 35mm.

Why is anyone surprised?

 

[Chan Tran]

we should send them a photograph of a nikon dslr,beaten to shreds with a hammer and photographed with a canon film camera

good idea Ralph but I can't afford to get a Nikon DSLR and beat it to shreds with a hammer. Perhaps you can Ralph!

 

[Chan Tran]

I've got to say that if I won and all the equipment was given to me, I'd probably end up giving it away to others who want to learn.

A while after my son was born and I had two kids to run around after instead of one, I embraced digital. During the earliest part of their lives, it was just too hard to keep developing film and I couldn't afford to send all the film I was running out to a lab. I got a Digital Rebel and went about relearning how to use photo editing software.

I realized something about six months in, though: I hate it. I actually HATE digital photography. The pictures I have of my kids are awesome and I don't really regret my choice, but I found negatives of my daughter recently from when she was a baby and there's just something completely DIFFERENT about them. I realized about two weeks ago that what I really wanted wasn't a 5DII/III, which is the way I was heading within a year and a half or so, but a damn Chamonix. I don't just like the images better with film, but I like the *process* better. I do enough on the computer already. Photography doesn't *always* have to be one of those things.

Nikon is really screwing up with this. People like me, who *do* use both film and digital, will likely not be supporting their brand in principle. They're going to miss out on *amazing* images. While it isn't the better business decision in the short term, I think that Nikon should look past the desire to sell as many digital devices as possible and actually come out as supporters of *all* forms of photography. Yeah, it's a pipe dream in these times, but have they looked at what's coming from film and alternative process users lately? It's obviously making a resurgence in a big way.

While it doesn't surprise me, it does piss me off and, to be honest, it's quite disappointing.

I wish you win and please give the digital equipment to me when you win. I own a lot of film equipment including darkroom stuff but no digital so I definitely want to have some to explore the new aspects.