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HAHAHA well obviously, film is competition to them now. There is nothing to gain and possibly something to lose from giving a prize to a film photograph. This is Nikon…a big digital camera producing company who couldn’t give a damn about photography but they are very interested in selling their product though, they will sell a D800 to any poor shmuck who thinks his camera will take nice pictures for him…they are only interested in steering the consumer toward their product and making their product as profitable to them as possible. I don’t know..just theorizing I guess, all I know is that if a product was not a threat there would be no reason to prohibit it.
 
The exclusion of analogue material is a clear proof that digital has not yet reached the quality and emotional response of analogue photography. Instead of bitching we can see the decision as proof of analogue's superiority.:smile:

This could also be seen as a possiblity for guerillia warfare against digital. Make a superb photo with digital, win, and if it came to an interview you can say that digital is an inferior medium but that you had to use it in order to compete in this competition.

Dominik

lol..how a bout a digital picture of a film picture?:D
 
film submissions are beyond the scope of the contest
just like digital images are beyond the scope of apug .

nikon doesn't make or sell film cameras anymore why would anyone think they would have a photo contest like features gear they don't even make ...
 
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< nikon doesn't make or sell film cameras anymore why would they have a photo contest like that ... >

How about the Nikon F6??
 
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Whuzzup Stone?!

In a word, the painters had it easier than we do, we live in a bigger world that has the invasion of intrepid thinking called the Internet...2012 has been a bad, bad year for both film and the film user, Nikon's BS move is not helping....

Hey Dan! Very true, the world is so big that it's small... Or is it that we are small in it?

I may have to go exclusively film again, Hurricane Sandy seems to have waterlogged my Canon 5D Mark II and I don't have 3 grand for the Mark III, shows how well made my Canon EOS 1V was made that it survived...perhaps I'm being told something by the universe...


Yes, he's here, sometimes on photo.net too. And of course the Kodachrome Project.


I don't understand this. What's to vet?
Make it clear stolen (or "borrowed") images will lead to disqualification. Or run all the finalist images through something like tineye. EXIF can be faked so that's no guarantee. And to exclude the work of some photographers for ease or cost reasons? To deny people a chance because they don't want to go to some trouble or to save money is unethical.

That doesn't mean people wouldn't try, and perhaps it's easier to prevent this with digital somehow? Ask them why.


It is a medium of the past. Over 150 years of iconic images bear witness to its ability to reach people of all stations in life.
It is also a medium of the present. Film is still being made, and is being used by people with the drive and determination to realize their vision through it.
It is also a medium of the future, so long as there are companies making film, and beyond that people making their own emulsions and carbons and gum prints, just as some do now. That artistry should not be ignored.

It is not much different from painting, really. Except that successful painters receive much more money for their work.
Painting was the medium of the past, it is a highly valued art form of the present, and it will continue to be in the future, even if painters have to grind their own pigments and mix their own paints. I know one who does that now, to get what he wants.

I meant that just like painting, film photography has moved from the "new" art, to the "old" art, digital is the new image art, and soon it will be something else (probably 3D or something like it). So in that sense it's of the past. And it's viewed by the majority as antique or quaint, like when I use my Autograohic foldies, I draw a crowd, fascination with antiques can also be profitable, so it could be good for us film guys, less competition.

Also most painters do NOT make more than photographers, not by a long shot, their paintings susally star to make money at second hand sales post mortem but during their lifetimes they are often unnoticed, only a select few are not the starving artists. This is true of photography but at least we have the option of making money, dare I mention weddings? You don't see a lot of painters doing a 6 hour wedding and walking away with $2,000-$12,000 twice a weekend for say 3 months of the year... I can't imagine main photos LIKE weddings, but they do it for the $ (or £, ¥, €, ₩, didn't want to exclude people haha).

Anyway, either next year they will open up to film again because of the complaints, or they won't, it is what it is, let's just keep plugging along and enjoying the fact we even have film to shoot on...


~Stone

The Important Ones - Mamiya: 7 II, RZ67 Pro II / Canon: 1V, AE-1 / Kodak: No 1 Pocket Autographic, No 1A Pocket Autographic

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< nikon doesn't make or sell film cameras anymore why would they have a photo contest like that ... >

How about the Nikon F6??

The F6 is a atom sized fraction of their product income…who buys a F6 to “try” film or to start using film again? Most will buy a used film camera for 100$ before. The bulk of their income is digital, they can discontinue the F6 tomorrow without even seeing a dent on their income…I don’t even need to verify this.
 
The F6 is a atom sized fraction of their product income…who buys a F6 to “try” film or to start using film again? Most will buy a used film camera for 100$ before. The bulk of their income is digital, they can discontinue the F6 tomorrow without even seeing a dent on their income…I don’t even need to verify this.

Sadly it's true, they still sell the Canon EOS 1V brand new as well, but I'm sure it's more back stock than new production. Wish they would make an updated program for their EXIF data downloader (canon records shooting data up to 300 rolls at a time i believe, and imprints a number in the beginning of the roll so you can match canister to image data, and you can download it). I keep an old laptop with windows 95 just to download it... Sad but true...


~Stone

The Important Ones - Mamiya: 7 II, RZ67 Pro II / Canon: 1V, AE-1 / Kodak: No 1 Pocket Autographic, No 1A Pocket Autographic

Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
 
The F6 is a atom sized fraction of their product income…who buys a F6 to “try” film or to start using film again? Most will buy a used film camera for 100$ before. The bulk of their income is digital, they can discontinue the F6 tomorrow without even seeing a dent on their income…I don’t even need to verify this.

hi alexis

i was saying nikon doesn't even make anything film based anymore so there was no point in
even including film ( a dead media to nikon seeing i thought they were all digital by now )
and i was dead wrong ... even thought the f6 is $2660.00 ... they still make and sell it ...

i guess film really isn't a big market share so they can afford to alienate the 20 film users that still use old
antiquated nikon cameras and smelly old film :blink:
 
The contest has little to do with photography but more with multimedia and illustration see category B & C they also nixed the emerging talent category and instead created the Nikon 1 category. Even for digital the requirements are shit sRGB instead of full rgb. This whole thing has changed from a contest with marketing to a pure marketing ploy.

Dominik
 
The Royal Photographic Society no longer accepts film for its International Projected Image (formerly International Slide) competition, though scans are apparently acceptable.
Very disappointing that slides, a stalwart of photography for so many years, are now excluded from the event. The RPS would undoubtedly argue that it's through lack of traditional slide entries, but if they don't allow them, well there certainly won't be any!
Steve (former International Slide Exhibition entrant, but not any more)
 
Well, what would you do if you were Nikon? They do have a presence in industrial and medical imaging - expensive stuff - but the cash cow at the moment is DSLSR's and amateur point n' shoot
digital. They better run with the fad while they can, cause it won't last. Other options like cell phones are already cutting into their consumer market fast. Will pro DSLR's sustain them in the long haul??? Not likely. They could become another Kodak story if they don't play their cards right. Like I give a damn. I've already got my FM2, FM3, and several LF Nikkor lenses, which will last the rest of my life.
 
The Royal Photographic Society no longer accepts film for its International Projected Image (formerly International Slide) competition, though scans are apparently acceptable.
Very disappointing that slides, a stalwart of photography for so many years, are now excluded from the event. The RPS would undoubtedly argue that it's through lack of traditional slide entries, but if they don't allow them, well there certainly won't be any!
Steve (former International Slide Exhibition entrant, but not any more)

Shame on the RPS digital projection sucks compared to slides, the decision of the RPS not to accept slides is even worse thah Nikon's decision. Nikon is a corporation the RPS is not
 
Well, what would you do if you were Nikon?

Not exclude and therefore offend pro users like me who have been using both their digital products ( N90s/NC2000 circa 1994 ) and film products ( F3 H.P. circa 1987 ) for over 20 years by telling the world that film photographers no longer matter in their long standing photo competition.

This IS a serious blow to the overall perception of the value of film based photography to the public at large and simply does not help the overall advocacy of it all. There is no reason for it, they are going to catch hell for this if I have anything to do with it...
 
... telling the world that film photographers no longer matter in their long standing photo competition.

This IS a serious blow to the overall perception of the value of film based photography to the public at large and simply does not help the overall advocacy of it all. There is no reason for it

This is why this is an important topic. It does hurt all analog imaging. Nikon is one of the pre-eminent names in photography, and their decision to exclude the analog segment of the photography community shows that they consider it irrelevant. We should not just let this pass. We should object. If we don't we are accepting irrelevance.
 
I meant that just like painting, film photography has moved from the "new" art, to the "old" art, digital is the new image art, and soon it will be something else (probably 3D or something like it). So in that sense it's of the past.
That's what I figured you meant. I was expanding on that and I guess challenging you to clarify that.

Also most painters do NOT make more than photographers, not by a long shot, their paintings susally star to make money at second hand sales post mortem but during their lifetimes they are often unnoticed, only a select few are not the starving artists. This is true of photography but at least we have the option of making money, dare I mention weddings? You don't see a lot of painters doing a 6 hour wedding and walking away with $2,000-$12,000 twice a weekend for say 3 months of the year...

Good points. Instead of "successful painters" I should have said "the most successful painters", which is who I was thinking of when I wrote it.
 
Well, what would you do if you were Nikon? They do have a presence in industrial and medical imaging - expensive stuff - but the cash cow at the moment is DSLSR's and amateur point n' shoot
I don't own a DSLR, yet the maker of my SLR has made quite a bit of money with me, much more than what they make with the average prosumer DSLR kit. Many lenses, flash, service ....
for over 20 years by telling the world that film photographers no longer matter in their long standing photo competition.
They don't just say "analog doesn't matter any more", they say explicitly "we don't like analog", which is a completely different message if you ask me. They don't ignore us, they give us the finger. We should reply in kind. Or just yawn at their "contest".
 
of the great mass of people out there who don't know much about photography, how many actually know this contest exists and that a glossy calendar is produced of the winning images ? very few I would think so I don't think they care about our small corner of the world tbh

most express shock/horror/surprise when they see me with my 35/mf/lf/ulf cameras as it were :wink:
 
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... they also nixed the emerging talent category...

I see now this contest should really have six categories. Bring back emerging talent, and add an alternative processes category which may include film. These two categories could have lower-tier prizes (like an honorable mention category). Because emerging talent is lifted by recognition, and film photographers, well we don't need more cameras.
 
Doubt I'll ever enter a contest. They all seem pretty stupid to me. But instead of everyone on APUG
whining at retreating when the first volley is fired, wouldn't it make more sense to go on the offence
and make film the superior more advanced option? Organize your own high-profile contest. Make
connections - and advertise "no digital anthing" allowed. But if you do, you'd better know how to
print.
 
Doubt I'll ever enter a contest. They all seem pretty stupid to me. But instead of everyone on APUG
whining at retreating when the first volley is fired, wouldn't it make more sense to go on the offence
and make film the superior more advanced option? Organize your own high-profile contest. Make
connections - and advertise "no digital anthing" allowed. But if you do, you'd better know how to
print.

This might actually be a good idea. Maybe we can get Ilford, Kodak, fuji and Rollei/Maco to sponsor the contest:D
 
Well, as a non-competitor in general I am tempted to make a real photograph, quickly print it and make a copy at the right location and at the right time on a friend's Nikon camera (so the exif data looks right) and submit that - Given that I am a super cool photo dude I am bound to win, then declare the truth when they give me the cheque

However, when the cheque is proffered, will I just take the money and run?

John
 
But if you look at the actual images selected for their microphotog contest you'll see most of them
are derived from relatively high-tech colorization techniques - not PS, but the kinds of artificial color
enhancement actually used in reseach and medical applications. Some of those high-end Nikon microscopes can only produce digital images because they split apart certain wavelengths of light in
order to reassemble them more tightly than ordinary optics can at such high levels of magnification.
A fifty K microscope can do a lot things an ordinary one can't. But I'd love to get my hands on a
vintage 70's Zeiss micropsope like I used studying microbiology, or a polarizing one like I used in the
geology lab, and then put a large format film head on it, just for fun.
 
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