New Reflex camera

[Theo Sulphate]

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Actually I would love to come anybody across having it hanging from the neck. Loaded or unloaded.
Likely I shall never make that encounter.

To hang from the neck, the camera will need its half-case. No strap lungs on the body. Same as with Voigtländer Bessamatic.

Be the first in your neighborhood to make photos with that camera!

 

[AgX]

I got that case...

 

[trendland]

Don't they come from Trendland ?

Of cause not - because if I would have given an offer to hipsters it would be an advice to Pentax Lx "Y2K Ediition".
Look at above again please .
This special camera is not avaible worldwide in absolute new condition below : $ 7999,- .
AND THIS IS A PRICING MUCH TO EXPENSIVE TO HIPSTERS.............
because they obviously can not afford their vegan latte macchiato with this accessoire.....!

with regards

 

[trendland]

To hang from the neck, the camera will need its half-case. No strap lungs on the body. Same as with Voigtländer Bessamatic.

Be the first in your neighborhood to make photos with that camera!

By the way Theo Sulphate - sad to hear about it is discontinued.
I own one Bessa R2 in special grey Edition.
It is very smart in comparison to Leica III
"LUFTWAFFE" from its price!
(nearly the same color).
But I am realy glad lenses are not discontinued.
And this camera is also to MUCH special to hipsters.
with regards

 

[TerryMcC]

I applaud anyone who wants to have a go. Celebrate the opportunity. It costs nothing to follow the journey of the camera to the market. The market will then decide its success or not.

 

[gary in nj]

I'm following Reflex with great interest and I hope success for them, but I'm surprised by those show disdain for the endeavor. Yes, there are plenty of 30-50 year old SLR cameras out there - cheap and plentiful. But there are also plenty of cars from the 1950's in Cuba...that doesn't make them great cars. Look at all of the advances that modern digital photography enjoy. I would love to have those features on a film camera. Here's one example; at 55 years old, my vision sucks. I would love a film SLR with autofocus - modern, fast, accurate autofocus - not the hit-n-miss autofocus of the 1980's.

If Reflex is going to offer a camera with similar features of those I have from the '70's & 80's - then I say "why bother". However, if their goal is to bring film photography up to current standards, then I'm all in.

Here's an SLR concept: how about a SLR that can take digital photos and film, a D/A-SLR.

 

[Billy Axeman]

Have a look at the Nikon F6. The combination of features, built quality, reliability, backwards compatibility, availability of lenses (old and new), accessories, service and price is unbeatable. You can get it new.

 

[etn]

We currently live in the post-apocalyptic times where professional film cameras abound on the used market. We are not yet to the point where the supply dries up but this time will eventually come. What will happen then? If no film camera manufacturer emerges by then, it will kill film for good.

 

[etn]

I saw that, hope it works out for JCH.

It's about availability, SLRs were the most popular camera type in the decades preceding digital, hence there are lots of good examples. You can buy almost any professional Nikon film camera for the price of an entry level DSLR or less, whether you like full manual or automatic models. Which is as evolved as the film DSLR got. The Reflex had better have something special in store technologically or in build quality to out perform those.
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Indeed. New cameras face the (some might call it unfair) competition of abundant used pro gear available at very low price. A new equivalent to a $200 used F3 would cost at least $1000, which not everyone is willing to spend. The demise of the Voigtlanders, Zeiss Ikon ZM, Rolleiflex FX etc proves it, To be successful, a new camera created today must have the same level of quality as the former pro bodies at a fraction of the cost, which is an impossible problem to solve from an engineering perspective.
I too wish success to JCH and others who engage on this difficult path.

 

[E. von Hoegh]

I've looked through this thread, and I might have missed it, but have found no information about or pictures of this camera. Does a prototype actually exist?

 

[Billy Axeman]

I've looked through this thread, and I might have missed it, but have found no information about or pictures of this camera. Does a prototype actually exist?

It will be presented on KickStarter on Nov 7th.

 

[Billy Axeman]

We currently live in the post-apocalyptic times where professional film cameras abound on the used market. We are not yet to the point where the supply dries up but this time will eventually come. What will happen then? If no film camera manufacturer emerges by then, it will kill film for good.

Pre-apocalyptic times.

 

[E. von Hoegh]

It will be presented on KickStarter on Nov 7th.

So translated this means they have six days to finish cobbling a mockup together.

 

[gary in nj]

They have been posting photos on Instagram. The quality of the photos have improved greatly in the last few weeks. Early examples had light leak issues and shutter problems. Recent photos look great.

 

[farmersteve]

More details are leaking out. Looks like Kickstarter price at $399 which is not completely crazy. It will have an M42 mount, which is about the only one they can do without legal problems. They might be releasing a total of 3 different cameras eventually. I guess all will be revealed next week!

https://www.thephoblographer.com/2017/11/02/reflex-manual-film-slr-will-hit-kickstarter-soon/

 

[AgX]

It will have an M42 mount, which is about the only one they can do without legal problems.

What legal problems?

 

[removed account4]

why do we need a new camera
on the market now, the marketplace
s saturated with old and used and NIB cameras
and lenses from mini format to ULF.
they shouldn't be wasting their efforts
unless they are just selling it to me,
a no nothing hipster
who has nothing better to do than accessorize
and play with a manual camera
as i get an0ther tatoo piercing or gauge instailled
at $400 i will have to boost the adsense on my food truck blog
and work on my youtube channel
on bad 1980s japanese animation cartoon characters
( for middle school newbees
who think its rad to watch bad animation )
a little more, im currently pulling in about
16K a week with click bait ads but im
getting a set of larger solid gold nostril guages
installed again, a platinum and copper throat bolt,
gold and diamnod studded grill/orthodontics
and
my own spin on vangogh's starry night
coloried on my back.
so its either raman or new camera..
maybe ill wait until next week
to get the radioactive
golden yellow green
and radioactive
electric midnight blue dyes injected.

 

[Billy Axeman]

Today I bought a nice SMC Takumar 28mm f/3.5

 

[macfred]

More details are leaking out. Looks like Kickstarter price at $399 which is not completely crazy. It will have an M42 mount, which is about the only one they can do without legal problems. They might be releasing a total of 3 different cameras eventually. I guess all will be revealed next week!

https://www.thephoblographer.com/2017/11/02/reflex-manual-film-slr-will-hit-kickstarter-soon/

Reminds me to the 2003 "Vogtländer"/Cosina "Bessaflex-TM" http://camera-wiki.org/wiki/Bessaflex_TM
http://camera-wiki.org/wiki/Bessaflex_TM
and
https://www.flickr.com/photos/squonk/405089145/in/pool-camerawiki/

 

[farmersteve]

Reminds me to the 2003 "Vogtländer"/Cosina "Bessaflex-TM"
http://camera-wiki.org/wiki/Bessaflex_TM
and
https://www.flickr.com/photos/squonk/405089145/in/pool-camerawiki/

Except old Bessaflex TM cameras on ebay are going for $500-$600. I wonder what corners they will cut on this new Reflex camera to get the price down...

 

[macfred]

Except old Bessaflex TM cameras on ebay are going for $500-$600. I wonder what corners they will cut on this new Reflex camera to get the price down...

Probably the wish was father to the thought ...

 

[Theo Sulphate]

Why are the Cosina-based Bessa type cameras no longer being produced? Lack of demand?

Although the Bessaflex and faux Voigtländer cameras made by Cosina were attractive to me, I never bought any because I objected to their use of the noble Voigtländer/Bessa- names (which they bought the rights to). Had they simply called it a Cosina, I would've bought it.

This Reflex camera in M42 mount seems promising. If it's totally mechanical, I'll likely buy one.

 

[Sirius Glass]

.. I objected to their use of the noble Voigtländer/Bessa- names (which they bought the rights to).

Since when is Voigtländer noble? He stole lens designs and put his name on them!

 

[macfred]

Why are the Cosina-based Bessa type cameras no longer being produced? Lack of demand?


This Reflex camera in M42 mount seems promising. If it's totally mechanical, I'll likely buy one.

I'm tempted, because I own two very nice SMC-Takumars and a CZJ Flektogon being out of use - at least until now.

 

[Theo Sulphate]

Since when is Voigtländer noble? He stole lens designs and put his name on them!

I don't know anything about that. I became interested in Voigtländer first because of their cameras (Bessamatic) and then their lenses (famous Zoomar).

From what I read here, it looks good to me:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voigtländer