Yeah I don't see where they state that they accidentally asked for APS-C size shutters. They do state that the high speed shutter they want is more available in that size than full frame....but not that they made a mistake and asked about APS-C.
The issue lies in the fact that, unlike not very long ago when the industry standard was 35mm over digital and full frame shutter units were common and mass-produced, today these units are reserved for mostly high-end models. So with production at only a fraction of what it once was, this means that demand and supply also dropped, leaving only one or two manufacturers worldwide. Our main mistake was made at the pre-Kickstarter stage; To get a realistic idea for off-the-shelf component costing, we went down the route of requesting quotes from sellers that supply parts for repair and service centers, as they can be bought in bulk and often come straight from the manufacturer. While in this case we don’t suspect bad intentions on the seller's part (since we had used once of their samples in the prototype), the shutter units became unavailable to us in large quantity once we were ready to order after DFM was finished. While at first sight many other sellers seemed to have access to service parts, and we felt reassured by our quotes, it turned out the supply chain has become so extremely limited, that no-one was able to help us with a substantial order.
No doubt.If it seems I am upset with the REFLEX team, I'm really not. I hope it does not appear that I'm saying to them, "you should have known better", because I don't mean that. I think they truly wanted to produce something new for the photo community and have fun doing it. Unfortunately, they needed someone working with them that had experience in manufacturing some sort of product from start to finish; someone who had been through the types of issues they've encountered. Ultimately, I do wish them success - though perhaps this project has been very stressful for them.
Yeah, they had issues with pretty much everything. They also bought the wrong size of shutters (how do they even operate them if they didn't even have PCBs) and kept talking instead about a pancake 40mm, that went quiet too. I regularly check to see how long they plan on continuing with the joke.If I remember right (!) this thread right, then so far there only are some design ideas, some mock-ups of the cameras and of their own lenses and now that circuit board.
I forgot about this.Kickstarter Project closed - Money gone
One of the Project founders now stated that they collected 154,000€. But that they spent all this money without yielding a functioning camera.
Bulls*it artists. Future politicians.I forgot about this.
They sure talked it up a lot.
C'est La Vie
Bulls*it artists. Future politicians.
Do you think that would have been easier than a 35mm SLR.?They where inexcusably naive about the whole thing. Or they committed and elaborate scam.
Anyone with half an eye and even just a cursory knowledge of manufacturing and the mechanics of SLRs could have told you that from day one.
That is however exactly what you write up for with kickstarters. You should never ever see it as anything more than a small lark.
Don’t even hope. Fully expect it to be an amusing crash and burn that you are sponsoring.
A simple, modern 120 folder would have made sense though.
A tonne. Folders are quite simple.Do you think that would have been easier than a 35mm SLR.?
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