Bob, did you order it (from where)? I'm interested in using it as an inter-positive. thanks.
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I am getting it from the manufacturer at the moment as my needs are special order ... 20 and 30 inch rolls, if you need cut sheet you will be able to get it in most dependable retailers, I am not sure of the exact delivery date.
I am using this film to run on my Durst Lambda and the end result is large negatives and positives for printing needs.
I am using this film to run on my Durst Lambda and the end result is large negatives and positives for printing needs.
Bob please let us know how u like it
Hi I will,, Spoiler Alert I am being asked to do a talk in NY Feb or March, I will base part of my talk on the film and processes I work with.
As I indicated, the type of the Bergger film is not new. It was available in the past and still is today.
The new thing of the Bergger film though is that it is available in amateur formats, something that got lost in the past and Bergger are the first introduce it again.
I'm curious to try this film also because apart from Ilford Ortho Plus at the moment I don't see any other quality continuous tone orthochromatic films in circulation. In the past I used the Bergger BPF 18, which then went out of production, it had a good tone reproduction but it had a tendentially low contrast (usually with the orthochromatics of this category the opposite happens) that could go well for bichromate gum prints but they were little suitable for carbon print or platinum-palladium.
Not on the bergger website
I don't think that is entirely correct.
This film is blue sensitive, generally this would mean it will be unable to see much past 500nm, maybe even up to 600nm at a stretch. I understand this to mean that a deep red safelight, which is close to 620nm (guessing here) will be perfectly usable.. My take is that with a dark red safelight, you could develop by inspection.
In another life and for close to 20 years, I daily developed lithographic film by inspection under a dark red safelight. The films were from Ilford, Kodak, Agfa and Dupont.
From Kodak and Dupont, I used their print films to do some of the things Bob Carnie proposes to do.
Kodak were the best, they had the possibility of using a yellow safelight for their print films, which was the easiest to use. It was possible to use their normal lithographic film under the yellow safelight, but not for as long as their print film. I think the yellow safelights were around 580nm.
However in my own darkroom, I always used a dark red safelight for any lithographic film, including print film from Kodak and Dupont.
As an aside, Kodak also made a C41 colour negative Print Film, with which I used a standard C41 colour negative either in an enlarger or contact directly onto the C41 Print Film. This enabled one to get a colour corrected transparency that could be sized to whatever was required, if using an enlarger to project onto the baseboard that is.
Mick.
This is negative film right? You can make an interpositive under an enlarger and then contact print it to get an enlarged internegative?
Or is it duplicating film, like that ultrafine product that used to be available ( maybe still is, IDK?? )
Or is it duplicating film, like that ultrafine product that used to be available ( maybe still is, IDK?? )
Many, many years ago I had a job of photographing color negs of the world's great art pieces and architecture. We would mount 6x9 color negs, back lit, and photograph a 100 or so images of the same neg. The result would be a set of 35mm transparencies that would then be part of a museum/university slide show, usually by topic. Maybe the topic would be Monet or impressionists. Thus, I would photograph the neg of Water Lillies.
Still available from Fuji. Agfa and Kodak cancelled their film based RA-4 print materials.
Products. Similar names as the Agfa films.
https://www.fujifilm.eu/eu/products/photofinishing/photographic-paper
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https://www.fujifilm.eu/eu/products/photofinishing/photographic-paper
(down below)
I think you may possibly be thinking of something else.
Kodak's "Color Print Film" is a C41 colour negative process. You expose the material directly from a C41 processed colour negative, then you develop in exactly the same C41 process and end up with a transparency, (or colour slide) as a final product.
Essentially, it is how colour movies are made. The expression for this is words to the effect, "a movie was sent for a print, or prints". As I understand it, it is a contact process whereby the original colour negative, which has been shot in a camera, then processed, is then contact printed and becomes a projected movie capable final product.
Mick.
The materials I hinted at were/are
-) still print films
-) available in 3 transmission modi
-) to be processed in RA-4
however
Agfa for one their late print films explicitely stated it to be processed as C-41, but alternatively as RA-4 too
What your are hinting at was Kodak still print still (to make small format slides by copying C-41 CN film) and to be processed as C-41). Cancelled by Kodak 20 years ago.
However I got no idea why would reject the current RA-4 films intended to make transparencies from C-41 CN film, unless you object the PET base.
would like to understand if talking about the characteristics of this film we are in the field of hypotheses or not, also because at the moment Bergger did not give detailed information. Today I phoned a Bergger product distributor who told me he made the purchase order and that the company is cutting the film in various formats and should distribute it towards the end of September. Important note: he confirmed that it is an orthochromatic continuous-tone film.
It seems the confusion is complete then; since the earlier Bergger Facebook post says it will be blue-sensitive and the product distributor says it is orthochromatic.
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· 7 August ·
In 2014, BERGGER decided to relaunch the production of black / white films based on silver halide technology. The PANCRO400 was presented on the market as a unique and innovative black and white film. Based on this experience, it was decided to present a new media on film: BERGGER PrintFilm
It is mainly dedicated to use in the darkroom, and in particular to the creation of interpositives and internegatives. It is a continuous tone film, whose contrast is easily controlled during the processing phase. The BERGGER PrintFilm is spread on a 175 micron PET base, for an easy and safe use. It is mainly sensitive to blue and is almost insensitive beyond 500 nm. Consequently it is perfectly usable with a traditional security light for darkroom. The BERGGER PrintFilm photosensitive emulsion is yellow and is very resistant to scratches. A very effective background anti-halo layer provides a maximum resolution. The red-colored back has antistatic properties. These layers naturally dissolve during the treatment and the film will be perfectly transparent.
It can also be used as a normal low-sensitivity orthochromatic film also for the pinhole camera.
BERGGER PrintFilm will be available starting from September in the following formats: 4x5 / 5x7 / 8x10 / 11x14 Rolls: 50.8 cm x 10 m 108 cm x 10 This is what is written on the website of one of the Bergger distributors in Italy.
That at least is a hint.
I am having my test rolls delivered as well at end of month to arrive in October
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