New Ilford film being Introduced

[ME Super]

I could see Ortho Plus being useful in cameras with the red window advance, since they're not sensitive to red light. I might just have to conjure up a 120 pinhole camera and give this film a try!

 

[pentaxuser]

So not a new film just now available in 35mm and 120.

but of course its Orthochromatic and you need to be aware it's speed drops a stop in Tungsten lighting to 40 ISO, FP4 is 80 ISO in Tungsten light.

Ian

Ian, out of curiosity is the drop of a stop still valid these days with daylight type LED lights operating close to the same K as mid-day daylight on some cases?
My neighbour has daylight type light in the kitchen but normal tungsten light in the lounge and when both sets of lights are on at night the difference is very noticeable from the outside - much more noticeable that I'd have believed was possible.

Thanks

pentaxuser

 

[Sirius Glass]

While any new film is good progress, I do not see myself using it. My interests may change, but I do not see that happening.

 

[Helge]

The whole package is meant as a (IMHO brilliant) way, with simple means, to get more people into home development and wet printing.
RC paper and ortho film is well suited for easy home development.
And the mini set is also a way of just giving the budding amateur the whole thing at once, without having to worry about scrounging for every single component.

The main problem for most people is not finding a suitable enlarger however. Those are still plentiful. The real problem is finding a space for a darkroom, even a temporary one. Space and privacy have become slightly more of a limited resource in the last twenty years. So I think if anything that is what is holding most people back.

Maybe an inflatable dark-tent would be an idea?

 

[wyofilm]

The whole package is meant as a (IMHO brilliant) way, with simple means, to get more people into home development and wet printing.
RC paper and ortho film is well suited for easy home development.
And the mini set is also a way of just giving the budding amateur the whole thing at once, without having to worry about scrounging for every single component.

The main problem for most people is not finding a suitable enlarger however. Those are still plentiful. The real problem is finding a space for a darkroom, even a temporary one. Space and privacy have become slightly more of a limited resource in the last twenty years. So I think if anything that is what is holding most people back.

Maybe an inflatable dark-tent would be an idea?

Who knows we might see the return of community dark rooms. (There must be at least a couple of them still out there.)

 

[John51]

Ortho in 35mm came just a little too late for one member:

https://www.photrio.com/forum/threads/closest-filter-to-create-ortho-response-with-pan-film.156112/

 

[wyofilm]

Would it be possible to combine these threads? They are becoming entirely redundant to the point of duplicate posts.

 

[MattKing]

Ortho in 35mm came just a little too late for one member:

https://www.photrio.com/forum/threads/closest-filter-to-create-ortho-response-with-pan-film.156112/

As that member was shooting movie film, I don't think this would have solved their problem....

 

[Vincent Peri]

I'm trying to remember the last discontinued product announcement by the main photography companies. It's been a pretty good couple of years.

Fujifilm relatively recently discontinued some of their color films. (Do they even make B&W film?)

 

[mshchem]

Teachers in that position tend to demonstrate the process by making paper negatives, which is far less costly and ridiculously easy to work with.

Most 9th grade teachers don't have 20 view cameras laying around. With the new reloadable Ilford camera, Ilford can sell starter kits of cameras, developing tanks and chemistry by the case. Teach the kids with a couple rolls of Ortho plus how easy it is to load a Paterson reel, then the Worlds Their Oyster!,

 

[dutchsteammachine]

I'm trying to remember the last discontinued product announcement by the main photography companies. It's been a pretty good couple of years.

(Now if Ilford's announcement was for true IR film ...)

Fuji Superia/Reala 1600
Fuji Superia/Venus 800
Fuji Superia 200
Fuji Superia 100
Fuji Acros 100
Fuji Pro 160s

 

[wyofilm]

Fujifilm relatively recently discontinued some of their color films. (Do they even make B&W film?)

You are right. Fuji discontinued a couple of films in 2018 and 2019. But they are bringing back Acros 100.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_discontinued_photographic_films#Fujifilm

 

[dutchsteammachine]

You are right. Fuji discontinued a couple of films in 2018 and 2019. But they are bringing back Acros 100.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_discontinued_photographic_films#Fujifilm

Yet an other 100 iso speed film, yawn. There was nothing comparable to Superia/Reala 1600. I prefer 160s to portra 160.

 

[wyofilm]

Yet an other 100 iso speed film, yawn.

Acros 100 might be one of many but it is damn good.

Two discontinued films have come back from the dead. Maybe more will follow.

 

[Helge]

Yet an other 100 iso speed film, yawn. There was nothing comparable to Superia/Reala 1600. I prefer 160s to portra 160.

Portra 400 pushed to 1600 or Cinestill 800t is better high speed colour films than Natura/Superia 1600 ever was.

 

[John51]

I'll be trying out the ortho film in my red widow cameras. Although I haven't had a problem using pan film with them.

Developing 120 by inspection would be cool. See saw, Margery Daw.

 

[Helge]

Who knows we might see the return of community dark rooms. (There must be at least a couple of them still out there.)

They are quite plentiful where I live (Copenhagen). They are way, way overpriced for what they are though. Not the manager groups fault really. Just the rent prices.
Finding a dark, undisturbed space, that is cheap or free is quite a bit harder than it used to be.
An inflatable tent, like a micro version of the tennis domes, is maybe not too crazy after all. The constant blower motor creating a pressure would also guarantee ample ventilation and filtered air.

 

[removedacct1]

Most 9th grade teachers don't have 20 view cameras laying around. With the new reloadable Ilford camera, Ilford can sell starter kits of cameras, developing tanks and chemistry by the case. Teach the kids with a couple rolls of Ortho plus how easy it is to load a Paterson reel, then the Worlds Their Oyster!,

Good point!

 

[MattKing]

I'll be trying out the ortho film in my red widow cameras.

T-Max 400 works fine in my red window cameras.
It even works fine in my pinhole camera, which has a clear filter.
You don't need Ortho film for red window cameras.
I'm most interested in the new film as another fine grain emulsion in 120.

 

[John51]

I've been meaning to try T-Max 400. Nice to know that it does well with the old folders.

With the ortho, it's more about using the type of emulsion that was available when those folders were new.

 

[MattKing]

I've been meaning to try T-Max 400. Nice to know that it does well with the old folders.

Well T-Max 400 works well, it is worth considering T-Max 100 too.
In some cases, the slower speed matches up better with the limited shutter speed range available on some folders.
I have one remaining roll of 120 Plus-X that I plan to re-spool to 620 and use in my Kodak Tourist. Just in the interests of Kodak "purity".

 

[unityofsaints]

Some people are continually let down by new car announcements, because it’s not a flying car.

The difference is these particular flying cars used to exist and then were discontinued.

The very fact that ortho film can now be used in handheld photography

What's wrong with Rollei Ortho 25? Or Ilford Ortho 4x5" in a speed graphic?

 

[Helge]

Red windows are fine with any film. To be on the safe side, go to the shadow when opening the window and remember to close after winding.

 

[awty]

I actually bought 5 boxes of out of date Ortho Plus a couple of months ago for next to nothing. now its highly publicized I will be able resell for a profit and buy some fresh fp4.

I wonder how curly it is, Ortho tends to be thinner than normal. Not a problem with sheet film.
It has a nice tonal range for portraiture. Think it would work well with a nice cooltone paper.
Not very good for taking pictures of fluffy white clouds against a blue sky, but should be good on gloomy cloudy days.
Would work well with yellow, orange, green and even blue filters, not so well with red.
I would give it a go, but my roll film draw in the fridge is full.

 

[Adrian Bacon]

Here’s a comparison between the new V vs IV. https://www.ilfordphoto.com/amfile/file/download/file/1954/product/745/

It looks good