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Mystery bulk roll of film - cine sprockets, no rebate?

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devixluvic

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I recently bought a used Alden bulk loader for 35mm film, but when I picked it up there was a roll of black and white film loaded. It's got no remjet and looks like B+W film, but oddly it has cinema-film style perforations with the rounded edges. Undeveloped it has a fairly pale grey colour to it. It's very curly, though that may be due to age. In case it adds to the history, the bulk loader has a "Property of NSCAD" sticker which looks to be an art school/university in Halifax, NS - nearly all the way across the continent from where I bought the loader. This film definitely has a polyester base, it does not tear anywhere close to as easy as HP5 does.

This is how it looks undeveloped:

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Thinking it might be super expired Kodak Double-X, I shot a test roll bracketing my exposures 5 stops from ISO 100 down to ISO 6. I used my Canon Elan 7e which has an accurate meter. These were taken outside in bright sunlight (very blue sky, no filter):
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Both test strips were developed in HC-110 dilution B. The bottom one was developed for 7 min 30 seconds, and the top strip had 20mL of Flic Film Fog-Off added to the tank (benzotriazole in solution). The Fog-Off bottle recommended adding 10% dev time per 5mL of chemical added, so I did 7.5 x 1.4 = 10.5 min development for the top strip. There's a good amount of base fog, even with the BZT/Fog-Off added. Definitely some usable images, but... no rebate or edge markings of any sort!


The film has some very pronounced grain, visible even when looking at the negatives on a light table:

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And here are some scans from the Fog-Off roll. Please keep in mind the film wanted to curl inwards very badly, so the edges of these scans will be out of focus unfortunately...

Rated at ISO100:
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Rated at ISO 25:
ISO25.jpg


Rated at ISO 6:
ISO6.jpg



I've read that some bulk Foma rolls have no edge markings, but I also read that Foma uses normal still-photography style perforations on their edges.


If anyone had any insight as to what this roll might be I'd appreciate the help!
 
Welcome aboard @devixluvic !

The sprockets holes are cinema perforations, so this is likely some cinematographic stock repurposed for still photography. Could be a lot of things. One of the things you might try is whether it's sensitive to red (panchromatic) or orthochromatic (no red sensitivity).

I also read that Foma uses normal still-photography style perforations on their edges.
Yes, correct.

Plenty of bulk film has / had no edge markings. This could be literally one of several dozens of types of film.

it might be super expired Kodak Double-X
I don't know if and when this was last manufactured without keycode edge printing.
 
Unfortunately as Koraks says, lots of film back in the day didn't have edge markings, especially if it was long rolls of cinematographic stock. It's not really possible even to guess at the age of the film.

It may remain a mystery unless someone out there knows what films were used by NSCAD.
 
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