What pins go with this system and will they fit in a vacumn frame?/Dug this up from a previous post of mine for register pin/punch DIY:
I would try the easiest(I think) get hold of 2 of these office punches, they don't need to be new but of the same make...
https://discountoffice.be/p/perforator-leitz-5180-inleg-64mm-zilver/
Keep one to punch your negs and papers, the other strip out one of the punches and cut it down to about 4-5mm height 2 bits(obviously) and punch a very thin strip of flexible plastic/metal on the working punch.
and glue these bits into the strip. Now you have a punch system. The strip can be taped or glued to your contact frame making sure the pins go into a recess in the wood side of the contact frame or the glass will break.
Just a thought, you might not need two punches just take one of the intended sheet binders an cut the bits from the ring clips in the binder(normally 2 in there).
You have to make the pins as explained and if after glueing them to a strip of thin metal or plastic fixed/lose as you like the pins face to the vacuum blanket away from the glass...
This is not a pro system it is diy for guys like myself.
These pins look quite good and the tabs are correct.I bought these recently.
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Not tried them yet. The method is described here for print-making.
http://www.handprinted.co.uk/ramblings/registering-a-print-with-ternes-burton-pins
Seems adaptable for alternative processing (or so thought, we shall see.)
I bought these recently.
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Not tried them yet. The method is described here for print-making.
http://www.handprinted.co.uk/ramblings/registering-a-print-with-ternes-burton-pins
Seems adaptable for alternative processing (or so thought, we shall see.)
So today i thought i'd start working towards a multiple layer print, but it seems things didn't want to go my way.
I did a few of test strips to try and figure out an exposure time, the gum/pigment/dichromate mix i used was the same as what Bob mentioned, but in a smaller amount. The only difference was i used 13% potassium dichromate rather than 10% ammonium dichromate. I assumed (possibly incorrectly) the only impact this was likely to have was on the exposure time.
I printed a clear to black in 10% steps scale on OHP film and did 3 exposures, 30, 60 and 90 seconds.
As you can see, there is a very narrow range of tones and a lot of flaking on the mid tones.
You'll have to forgive the horrific quality on my scanner, i've no idea where it got the blue tinge from!
These pins look quite good and the tabs are correct.
the system I use punches all three holes at once
oblong circular oblong and the center circular pin fits tight but the two outside oblong pins have room to move.
This allow for the film to settle properly on the pins and find its correct place . (Hard to explain , I did a lot of complicated
registration work in a large lab, in the 80's and this setup was much more accurate than the kodak pin register system for dyetransfer that had to
thin circular pegs and you would lay glass over top.
one thing to remember is to have the registration as close as possible to the image to have stable register.
I bought these recently.
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Niranjan, when you to try it, would you please post your expericience with it here in this thread or (there was a url link here which no longer exists)? Also check that thread... Bob and others posted some great info there.
I have not moved forward because I didn't want to modify my printing frame to make recessed holes (like Ced mentioned above) -- I'm going to make a purpose-built frame with thick glass and pin registration instead. Amazing that 2 years have gone by already. I'm still planning to try it but went on a ( still going!)detour with a different process. For the substrate I am going to try mounting with 3% gelatin, which can be released with warm water -- but nothing more to add because I haven't tried it yet.
I downloaded Stephen Livik manual on gum.
I know from my reading that the different salts exhibit different speed/sensitivity but I get the feeling you don't mean that?P Dichromate vs A Dichromate - I found a big difference when I tested so I use A Dichromate.
When I swithced to PD I found a complete lack of contrast in my setup so I immediatelly went back to AD...I know from my reading that the different salts exhibit different speed/sensitivity but I get the feeling you don't mean that?
Is it about stain or contrast or what, that you see a difference?
Dichromates are hard enough to get hold of over here for the hamateur and I've no idea where I'd go for the Ammonium. Though fortunately I do have a kilo or so of Potassium lurking in my danger box.
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