Lomography - this is how you inspire the younger generation into film

[E. von Hoegh]

the dire consequences of selling repackaged film and lomo cameras are what exactly ?
they get people interested in film and keep labs .. labbing ?

yup, they existed in the 90s .. by the 2000s they had people interested in what they were doing, a website
and began building and selling out of brick and mortar stores. just as kodak was starting to look ike a dead goldfish you'd flush down the toilet.
IDK, i guess the problem is they have people shooting film like they were making cellphone snapshots. IDK, maybe i'm wrong, but
i think that's a lot better for the film industry as a whole than the serious weekender who spends 9 hours exposing 2 sheets of film on
a camera bought for 3$ at a swap meet on film horded 15 years before.

i'm guessing it wasn't the largeformat weekender that saved the film industry.

who cares if they repackage film ...
j+c, bregger, freestyle photowarehouse just to name a few do or did it,
and same with paper, i don't think LODIMA has their own factory ..

if it is the $$ involved the original KODAK cost $245 in 1885, which is over $6600 today
LOMO cameras are cheap by comparison !

"if it is the $$ involved the original KODAK cost $245 in 1885, which is over $6600 today"

Kodak advertisement, original Kodak - https://www.google.com/search?q=188...sAQIggE&biw=1280&bih=863#imgrc=ROFt0KO1btPlVM: advertised cost $25.

Also the original Kodak was cutting edge tech for the time, and I doubt it came with light leaks

 

[removed account4]

i stand to be corrected !

 

[Ces1um]

The difference between Lomography and the numerous rebrands that preceded it, is the others made their own brand less expensive than the original. If you'd care to cite examples of Lomography providing cheaper film than the kosher item (in store promotions not withstanding), I'm listening.

As stated earlier, I can buy a pack of 3 lomography branded film for $13.90 cdn. My local lab charges $12-14 for ektar or portra. Kodak gold/fuji I can buy for a bit cheaper, around $9 for a single roll. I can get lomo rebrands for cheaper than I can buy the brand itself. Shipping costs negate some of this benefit but there is a break even point after only buying that second box of 3.

 

[canuhead]

no offense but are u saying Ektar or Portra are rebranded as Lomo film ?? citations ?

 

[faberryman]

As stated earlier, I can buy a pack of 3 lomography branded film for $13.90 cdn. My local lab charges $12-14 for ektar or portra. Kodak gold/fuji I can buy for a bit cheaper, around $9 for a single roll. I can get lomo rebrands for cheaper than I can buy the brand itself. Shipping costs negate some of this benefit but there is a break even point after only buying that second box of 3.

Kodak Gold 200 is $3.85 for a 36 exposure roll at B&H.

 

[MattKing]

Ces1um is in Canada. Film distribution here is the pits.
Not just for Kodak.
A 36 exposure roll of Kodak Gold 200 will be upwards of $15.00 CDN here in many "camera" stores - if they even sell film.

 

[canuhead]

another reason to buy Kodak at Downtown Camera. They've basically tried to match B&H pricing (within a buck or two which is good enough for me) and iirc, they've also instituted free shipping in Canada for orders over $99.

 

[faberryman]

Ces1um is in Canada. Film distribution here is the pits. Not just for Kodak. A 36 exposure roll of Kodak Gold 200 will be upwards of $15.00 CDN here in many "camera" stores - if they even sell film.

Canadians can (and do) buy from B&H. There is no reason to pay $12-$15 for a roll of color film. Or am I missing something?

 

[Pioneer]

I am glad that gr82bart and st_s posted those links to Lomography Magazine.

I am really enjoying reading their articles.

Good stuff. Far better than the Kodak Magazine that recently came out.

And a LOT less expensive.

 

[Ces1um]

Canadians can (and do) buy from B&H. There is no reason to pay $12-$15 for a roll of color film. Or am I missing something?

You're missing shipping, exchange rate and duty (b and h collects it). After exchange I'd pay 4.84. $15 for shipping making it $19.84 and duty which I have no clue about. Let's just say it would cost me $20 to get one roll here in Canada from b&h. Obviously additional rolls become far more cost effective.

Really though, we should look at that $4.84 per roll, 14.52 for 3. I can buy lomo film for $13.90 (not a big diff in price).

 

[removed account4]

is it less expensive if there is a GIANT order ? if so,
canadian photographers should start some sort of
consortium .. every few months or whatever,
a bulk order is made and distributed
( if it is less expensive, and not a liability / govermental problem
like becoming a distributer or importer/ exporter &c )
its a shame people have to pay so much..

 

[zkascak]

Why are stories of traveling around in an RV in the snow any different because the participants shot film rather than digital?

The story is the same, but people tend to feel more connected to something when you have something physical in your hand as opposed to something digital on a screen. If someone wrote you something deep and heartfelt you would probably feel more appreciation for it it they gave it to you as a hand written note rather than as an email because of the time and energy that they put into it.

At least for me, with film there is the whole process of taking the pictures, processing the film while waiting to see if you got anything, printing and then scanning the film.

It is a passionate process that makes me feel more connected to the film work rather than the digital. As opposed to taking a picture on my dslr and then viewing it immediately after.

When I work with students and try to explain why I love working with film. I try to make them understand that it is the process of making a permenant, tangible, archivable object as opposed to something intangible that is composed of 1s and 0s in the cloud.

Both have a time and a place and fill a particular need.

 

[Ste_S]

no offense but are u saying Ektar or Portra are rebranded as Lomo film ?? citations ?

The colour Lomo film is consumer Kodak apparenly, Gold/Procolor/Ultramax. I'm drumming my fingers waiting for the 800ISO 120 colour film to come back in stock. Almost a third of the price of Portra 800 120.

 

[jtk]

I practiced law for decades and witnessed thousands of contacts being signed. The few that were signed with a fountain pen were generally done by people who wanted to feel a heightened sense of importance, and who exhibited other affected behaviors. I wouldn't wish those characteristics on photographers who choose to shoot film (and is why I think the analogy is misplaced), but sometimes the shoe fits.

Fun observation about "affectatian" !

I shoot and scan b&w 35mm, shoot digital, and inkjet print it all...

I almost always previsualize in b&w, even when shooting color...

I most mourn the death of all of the same-day Ektachrome labs that produced wonders for me and my clients.

HOWEVER... the kids have been hyperactive photographers ever since early cellphones...