Yeah, most of those official calibrated light sources also fit the description of "stabilized power supply and a halogen bulb". You know what else does? My enlargerThis is how far I got thinking about calibrating light meters… I bought the light
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That is great Bill. I did not know you had that since 2016.This is how far I got thinking about calibrating light meters… I bought the light
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You might also want to check out this paper, which I don't see referenced in Conrad's paper. I believe I got this paper reference from Steve B.I was hoping for some comments on whether I read that document correctly, and whether I was on-track with that math I put together.
You might also want to check out this paper, which I don't see referenced in Conrad's paper. I believe I got this paper reference from Steve B.
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This is how far I got thinking about calibrating light meters… I bought the light
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I should probably mention that I actually do have a copy of ISO 2720:1974 (formerly known as ANSI PH3.49 - 1971), and it appears to describe the same calculations as the Conrad document. The only difference is that the ISO standard is written from the perspective of a known light source and bench configuration, while the Conrad document is written from the perspective of known illuminance and/or luminance values.
Gossen's advice too.
https://gossen-photo.de/en/calibration-of-exposure-meter/
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My check is EV14.7 ISO100. Which agrees with the Sunny 16 rule and yours does not.
So I've been thinking a lot lately about how to correctly calibrate my various light meters. The Internet is chock full of people sharing their rules-of-thumb and get-it-in-the-ballpark methods, pretty much none of which even vaguely resemble what a professional might do. The closest you ever get to that, is recommendations for specific labs that can do calibration. No one ever talks about how those labs do it.
That being said, I've recently decided to tackle the problem myself. As a reference, I've been working from the Exposure Metering (by Jeff Conrad) document.
As tools, I've been using the following:
I've also decided to do this entire exercise in "EV at ISO 100", since its a standard absolute unit most light meters can be set to read in terms of. There's a lot less room for "rounding error" than something as coarse as standard f-stops or shutter speed stops.
- An incident lux meter with proper NIST-traceable lab calibration (I have an Extech LT300 and a Minolta CL-200A, though they basically read the same under the same test conditions.)
- A Sekonic Exposure Profile Target II, which contains a very large and high quality gray card. I've measured this on my densitometer to have a density of 0.75, which translates to a reflectance of 17.78% (a.k.a. "18% gray")
- A big diffuse light source, which in my case is the sun under an open sky on an overcast day. (I'd love to use an artificial source for this, but I don't have anything suitable. The smaller the light source, the bigger the variations your geometric conditions introduce with lumisphere-style incident meters.)
- A collection of incident and reflective light meters to compare
The goal is, given a lux reading from a lux meter, to determine:
That all being said, here's the math I've come up with for incident-light meters:
- What EV an incident-light meter should give at the same spot
- What EV a reflected-light meter should give from my gray card placed at that same spot
EV100 = log2((Lux * 100) / C)(where C=340 for Sekonic lumisphere-style incident meters)
For reflected-light (e.g. spot) meters, it gets a little bit more complicated:
Z = 10(-1 * D)Where:
Ls = (Z * Lux) / Pi
EV100 = log2((Ls * 100) / K)
- D = measured density of the gray card being used
- Z = reflectance of the gray card (can skip the calculation and set directly, if you already know it and/or don't have a densitometer)
- Lux = the same incident lux reading used in the previous calculation
- K = a constant that's typically 12.5 for Sekonic/Canon/Nikon meters, and 14 for Minolta/Pentax meters
In my latest worked example, for which I've already put together a spreadsheet to simplify, I get the following results:
- Measured lux: 43400
- Sekonic lumisphere incident meters should measure: EV=13.6
- Sekonic spot meters should measure: EV=14.3
- Minolta/Pentax spot meters should measure: EV=14.1
Does this whole process make sense? Is there some critical detail I've completely overlooked? Just throwing this out there to see what others think of this whole attempt at sorting things out.
OMG, I must have done it all wrong for 47 years!
I thought I could thrust my Spectra (the Combi-500 pro was for long time my standard), Gossen, Sekonic and Pentax who, within about 1/3 of a stop, all agree...
My check is EV14.7 ISO100. Which agrees with the Sunny 16 rule ...
Can you say what difference(s) there will be between a meter that reads EV15 and one that reads EV14.7 and how those differences manifest itself themselves in terms of what effect on the negative that then translates into the prints i.e. will the two prints show noticeable differences?[QUOTE="RalphLambrecht, post: 2460147, mems
My check is EV14.7 ISO100. Which agrees with the Sunny 16 rule and yours does not.
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