How cold that be? Film is not dying!
Leica the only one?
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Yeah, there's only a few places in our metro area that you can get it, otherwise it's mail order only.
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Sarcasm....I grew up around enough Jews to recognize it when I see it but I still don't think its funny.
Digital photography is dead!
Sounds like you're covered then. How many places do you need?
Agreed.
Nikon apparently had to re-tool/build new tooling to create the re-issues.
Once they were done, what did they do with that tooling? I'm hoping they moth-balled it, not destroyed it.
This will be blashphemy but... a new Nikon S in Leica M mount would do better than if it was sold in the S mount. I have a lovely S2, and there is nothing I like about that mount system, nor focusing wheel, nor lenses that spin their aperture rings as you focus that I would miss.
But a Nikon S2 type thing in an M mount? That focuses like a normal camera? Whose aperture stays in place? That has a bazillion lenses available for it? I'm in.
Oh, also add a light meter to it, otherwise people will just whine and say they can buy an original S2 for $400...
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What you describe sounds kinda like the (discontinued?) Zeiss Ikon ZM....which I think would sell today if properly marketed and reasonably priced.
Yep yep.
But if you have handled a ZM, and then a Nikon S series camera, the ZM really feels chintzy.
I agree though, I think there is a market for the ZM given that used ones sell for $1500-$1800.
Scary
Sarcasm is not limited to Jews. See this reference https://www.gutenberg.org/files/1080/1080-h/1080-h.htm
Oh, yeah and it's irony.
Matt, I partially quoted that sentence in one of my previous posts. It gives examples of what it includes, but it doesn't say it excludes devices not mentioned. If they had wanted to write "any device capable of taking digital still images," they could have done so. (We could then argue over whether a scanner takes digital still images or whether they meant the original image.) It clearly allows devices in categories that Nikon doesn't make, eg smartphones and digital MF/LF, which may be why they put that clause in. The main point seems to be to ask for photographs rather than computer generated illustrations.
If someone wants to write Nikon and ask whether a scanned film image would be acceptable, they are free to do so, but in the meantime we are working up a Photrio lather over the iron fist of digital oppression without strong evidence.
I've said this in previous film-revival threads: it's hard to imagine Nikon or anybody else suddenly rolling out a mid-priced mechanical film camera like a "New FM." But if they wanted to turn a DSLR into an electronic AF film camera like the "New N90," that would be feasible. They've already got the shutter, exposure controls, etc; they would have to take out the sensor and build a film transport. It would be like how the D100 evolved from the N80 (I think), but losing the legs and crawling back into the ocean, so to speak.
It's hard to imagine Nikon doing this when a working N90 costs less than US$100, probably less than an FM on the used market.
Unfortunately that is what powers some threads. If one has a question about contests, the questions should be directed to the contest people.
Well, in Germany you can still get 35mm film at two of the major three drugstore chains, thus practically in any town. There is no local film processing anymore, except for the few cities with labs.
Camera stores have vanished greatly, there are even big cities without such.
Isn't Rossmann or DM offering processing of film by CeWe?
And what about HEMA can you get your films developed in th German shops? It is quite popular for film developing in the Netherlands. For €3 (for C41, €3,50 for E6) they develop 120 and 135. It's quite fast too.
They have their own line at Fujifilm in Steenbergen.
In the UK film is living almost in its plenitude.
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The problem with well-built pro equipment from a manufacturer's standpoint is that it is well-built ! It doesn't need to be replaced very often. Nowadays, profit is mostly based on the consumer electronics model - either the mechanics or the software simply go obsolete rapidly, along with the "gotta have the latest and greatest" every six months consumer mentality. There's already a glut of fine old camera and lenses, many at bargain prices, that might function well for decades still to come. Retooling to do it the old way is very expensive. Nikon does have a medical imaging division supplying costly durable equipment. But let's face it, even mass-produced digital 35mm-ish camera are under dire threat from smartphones, at least where mass-market appeal lies. Most people just want to look at nearly-instant web images. The market is getting narrower and narrower. And plastic toy Holgas and so forth aren't any kind of real answer. I don't care. Even if I live to be 100, my basic FM2n will probably still be near-mint in terms of ongoing functional life.
Agreed - I still regularly use my 1937 Leica II, my 1956 Leica IIIf, the c1896 Underwood 1/4-plate camera and my Cambo 4x5. And I'm just building a new back for the Underwood 1/2-plate too, since Foma still cut film I can use for it. So, that's two 125 year old cameras still in use, an almost 85 year old camera and a 65 year old camera that still work perfectly.
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But crap happens. I remember my original Nikon F (bought new in 1967 or '68!) that took a spill with me from my motorcycle. Afterwards, the 1/8 sec shutter speed no longer functioned--it was more like a "T" setting, the shutter would stay open until I changed the dial. Needless to say, everything else worked fine on the camera, well enough that I held off having it repaired for 5 years. But to my original point, no matter how well built a camera may be, something might occur that needs repair. And then you are at the mercy of parts availability and capable technicians with the knowledge to make the necessary repairs.
But that's true of any equipment from whatever period.
More current equipment is more likely to have parts and people with the knowledge and skills to make repairs.
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Just the opposite, Pieter - most newer stuff is designed to be short-term, non-repairable, disposable. A lot of soon-obsolete electronics and flimsy plastic. Lots of outsourcing. And it's not just cameras - all kinds of equipment. There is very little pride in manufacturing anymore. There are exceptions and niche markets, or course; but things will never be like before. Another generation of career repairmen?? They gotta somehow earn enough to eat too! It used to be that manufacturers made surplus quantities of parts just for sake of long-term repairs; but now that practice is almost extinct in numerous categories. If you open a repair business, and can't even get basic parts, everybody hates you. Not a smart business model anymore, at least if you're contemplating repair of small items. And currently, it's generally cheaper just to buy a spare vintage camera than have one repaired.
I'm stating this from experience. Right after I retired, the whole big repair dept subsidary to my own sales division was shut down after decades of successful operation. Why? - the stockpile of parts was getting thin, and replacement parts were either now unavailable or themselves worthless made-in-China crap. And the service was run on the premise of supplemental moonlight income for those involved - evenings and weekends after their regular schedule. It would have been hard for anyone to make an outright living on it, despite cumulative transactions in the millions of dollars per year. End of an era.
I'm stating this from experience. Right after I retired, the whole big repair dept subsidary to my own sales division was shut down after decades of successful operation. Why? - the stockpile of parts was getting thin, and replacement parts were either now unavailable or themselves worthless made-in-China crap. And the service was run on the premise of supplemental moonlight income for those involved - evenings and weekends after their regular schedule. It would have been hard for anyone to make an outright living on it, despite cumulative transactions in the millions of dollars per year. End of an era.
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That's a little harsh, man...a little harsh.
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