Landscapes with medium format

[AndyH]

While I could afford to buy the Hasselblad FlexBody or ArcBody with the lenses for medium format movements, I decided that if I am going to use movements I would do it using large format cameras. That removes the restrictions of those two cameras movements and provide a larger negative.

Although I think I'll stick with my 4x5 for shift/tilt work, I've always been intrigued by these. But I don't understand the difference between the Flexbody and Arcbody. Can you give a brief description?

Thanks!
Andy

 

[markbau]

I almost always compose for the specific format I am shooting.

So do I, usually, but sometimes, after looking at a first print, I notice that the print could be improved by printing it square. The full-frame is not sacrosanct!

 

[etn]

Although I think I'll stick with my 4x5 for shift/tilt work, I've always been intrigued by these. But I don't understand the difference between the Flexbody and Arcbody. Can you give a brief description?

Thanks!
Andy

In a nutshell, the Flexbody uses regular Hassy lenses but is limited in the movements, mostly due to the « relatively small » image circle of the lenses.
The Arcbody has wider movements but require the use of specific lenses. The Arcbody is in esssence a large format system with Hasselblad backs.

 

[mpirie]

There's always the option to combine the technologies and use a 5x4 camera but with a 6x6, 6x7, 6x9 or 6x12 roll film back.

Gives all the advantages of movements and access to a wider range of film types.

Mike

 

[GLS]

So do I, usually, but sometimes, after looking at a first print, I notice that the print could be improved by printing it square. The full-frame is not sacrosanct!

Heretic! Don't you know that titan of photography, FroKnowsPhoto, says never to crop?

 

[guangong]

I was shopping for another camera around the time that the Pentax 67 and the Linhof press camera came on the market. The Pentax way to heavy, the Linhof way to awkward. Settled on Rolleiflex 2.8F. I still prefer compact cameras...Hasselblad, Rolleiflex, Super Ikonta B and Kodak Medalist. I admire the brawn of those who can handle MF Pentax andcan see possibilities, but for less weight I can go LF.

 

[John Koehrer]

... and you can print any square negative rectangular.

As an alternative you can print any rectangular regative square

 

[Jeremy Mudd]

I shoot a lot of landscapes with my GX617 now, but before that (and still sometimes) I shot a lot with my RB67 with a modified 220 back and adapters for 35mm film. I usually get 16-17 shots out of a roll and the aspect ratio is roughly the same. 220 backs are cheap and so are the adapters, so its worth experimenting with. I also made a custom plastic mask to drop into the RB67 viewfinder to replicate the correct field of view. Here's an image with the RB67/35mm set-up, with the sprocket holes cropped out in post.

 

[etn]

I shoot a lot of landscapes with my GX617 now, but before that (and still sometimes) I shot a lot with my RB67 with a modified 220 back and adapters for 35mm film. I usually get 16-17 shots out of a roll and the aspect ratio is roughly the same. 220 backs are cheap and so are the adapters, so its worth experimenting with. I also made a custom plastic mask to drop into the RB67 viewfinder to replicate the correct field of view. Here's an image with the RB67/35mm set-up, with the sprocket holes cropped out in post.

Awesome picture!
Your RB67 / 35mm is certainly an affordable Xpan

 

[etn]

Heretic! Don't you know that titan of photography, FroKnowsPhoto, says never to crop?

In my book, when someone claims he "knows" something, he's usually on the first slope of Dunning-Kruger...

Trust me, I know

 

[Jeremy Mudd]

In my book, when someone claims he "knows" something, he's usually on the first slope of Dunning-Kruger...

Trust me, I know

I used to watch Fro until that whole cropping obsession with him just annoyed me so much that I couldn't watch him anymore.

 

[GLS]

I used to watch Fro until that whole cropping obsession with him just annoyed me so much that I couldn't watch him anymore.

I find almost everything he says annoying

 

[Stephen Prunier]

I shoot a lot of landscapes with my GX617 now, but before that (and still sometimes) I shot a lot with my RB67 with a modified 220 back and adapters for 35mm film. I usually get 16-17 shots out of a roll and the aspect ratio is roughly the same. 220 backs are cheap and so are the adapters, so its worth experimenting with. I also made a custom plastic mask to drop into the RB67 viewfinder to replicate the correct field of view. Here's an image with the RB67/35mm set-up, with the sprocket holes cropped out in post.

That's a Beautiful Image. Would the needed adapter work with the RZ67 220 backs? Not that I own either the back nor the adapter. However, I do own the camera.

 

[Jeremy Mudd]

That's a Beautiful Image. Would the needed adapter work with the RZ67 220 backs? Not that I own either the back nor the adapter. However, I do own the camera.

Thanks! Not certain about the RZ . The adapter will certainly fit so I think it should work.

 

[Jeremy Mudd]

This is the one I purchased:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/35mm-to-12...599350?hash=item3aef8562b6:g:chIAAOSwol5YzsJw

 

[M. Axel Wikstrom]

If you're not printing larger than about 16x20", medium format is fine. Anything larger and I'd use 4x5 or bigger.

 

[Stephen Prunier]

This is the one I purchased:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/35mm-to-12...599350?hash=item3aef8562b6:g:chIAAOSwol5YzsJw

Thanks. I'm going to look into getting a 220 back and adaptor.

 

[warden]

...Here's an image with the RB67/35mm set-up, with the sprocket holes cropped out in post.

That's cool!

 

[Jeremy Mudd]

Thanks. I'm going to look into getting a 220 back and adaptor.

Good luck! For the 220 ProS back that I'm using, I made a slight modification so it would work perfectly with 35mm film. In this picture attached, there is a small wheel with rubber covering it that drives the shot counter. (to the left of the red arrow) It's not directly connected the cylinder below it that rides on the same metal pin. So when the 35mm film rolls over the cylinder its not driving the counter wheel like 120 film would. So I super-glued the two together so that the 35mm film drives the counter and I can keep track of how many shots I've taken. Without that step, you have to keep count in your head or on paper, until you get to about 17 (with a 36 shot 35mm roll). Much past that you run the risk of losing a shot or two. You could get more if you save some 120 backing paper and a spool and use that as a film leader to save on 35mm film. This is with the ProS back, so not certain if it applies to the RZ back. You'll just want to check.

 

[Pieter12]

I assume you have to remove the film from the cassette and load in the dark? I'm considering trying this with a Rollei 6000 220 back, otherwise pretty useless.

 

[Jeremy Mudd]

I assume you have to remove the film from the cassette and load in the dark? I'm considering trying this with a Rollei 6000 220 back, otherwise pretty useless.

You can load it in daylight as you normally would, but at the end of shooting, you need to remove the film in the dark or in a dark bag. Once shot it can just live in the back until you are ready to remove it.

I actually have two backs and adapters in case there's ever a time I shoot more than 1 roll of film at a time this way - generally I shoot just one roll and then remove the film in the dark room and put it directly onto the reel to develop.

17 shots for me is a lot. Typically I've have the 35mm back and shoot it along with some 120 at the same scene. 17 shots is REALLY a lot now that I'm used to shooting the GX617 that only gives me 4 per roll of 120.

 

[Jeremy Mudd]

Just to be certain you understand, this is what the adapters look like. You treat the 35mm film like its 120 film - leave it in the canister to start and the take-up spool pulls it out of the canister as you shoot.

 

[k.hendrik]

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home brew adapters for RZ67 inside 120 back.

 

[MattKing]

Some of the offerings on eBay don't include a take-up adapter, and expect you to use a 120/620 spool.
Some way of dealing with take-up is useful.
A re-loadable 35mm cassette with adapters will allow you to (in the dark) simply cut the film after the last exposure. An uncovered spool will require re-winding in the dark.

 

[Philippe-Georges]

"Nothing can't be done with a Hasselblad" (that's a double negation)...
AA's moon over Half dome was shot with a 500C, if I am not mistaking.
Even the SWC/M (biogon 38mm) will do, see attached image (Reichenau isle)...