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Sure I'll trade you for my 2 family house... It's still worth about $100,000 right now and just needs a little remodeling...
Maybe I'll sell the whole property to Dave Lyga. He could make the mortgage for less that the rent on an efficiency apartment in some place like Philadelphia. Hey Stone--you want 18 beautiful acres of hardwoods, pines, and sweetgums and a designer log cabin? You couldn't buy 3 blades of grass off somebody's property in Connecticut for what you could have the whole kit and kaboodle for here.
I'll even throw in a genuine Merry Tiller and a DR Mower. And I'll let you have a 12 gauge New England Firearms single-shot for the varmints.
I'll take the photo gear and the RC planes.
Sure I'll trade you for my 2 family house... It's still worth about $100,000 right now and just needs a little remodeling...
In the US a company can write off lease payments at 100% on the taxes. Therefore it is often a wise business decision to lease rather than buy. I do not know the tax laws in England, but I would think that they would be the same in this respect.
To properly "install" coating equipment the machines must be anchored to the ground in such way that passing traffic does not cause defects in the coatings. Also, the machines must be carefully aligned to prevent kinks. So, moving is not the problem. It is down time and alignment which up the expense of any move.
If Ilford moves (and I did not mean to imply that in my post in any way) it will be very costly in terms of time and money. Most of you do not realize this. It is similar to a chip production area. Moves cause defects.
PE
Bad 8x10 paper negative shot on a dreary day of a beautiful Bob Timberlake 16 year old cabin. As for moving up north, I don't think so. Northerners move down here every day, but when is the last time you heard of it happening in reverse? You people freeze your keisters off up there.View attachment 85187
Wow, that could be from my collection. It instantly brought the smell back.
If the biggest problem with moving of coating machines is the resulting downtime of these machines, then what is the problem? It's not like they need these machines spinning 24/7 these days ...
BTW--I've got nothing but respect for Boeing. Any company that have come up with the B-17 and B-29 at that time, with that technology was genius.
Down time could be a year and the waste of testing after to ensure and correct issues and no emulsion problems, etc... It's costly... Storing the excess film before shut down to ensure a supply while down.. Etc
But isn't moving a factory a couple of hundred yards still a major endeavor... just less time/space to transit?
In the US a company can write off lease payments at 100% on the taxes. Therefore it is often a wise business decision to lease rather than buy. I do not know the tax laws in England, but I would think that they would be the same in this respect.
Instead of firing off a posting criticizing a company, that you do some due diligence for a change. A little research you do you a great deal of good.
Didn't Ilford successfully move production to Mobberley, Cheshire, from somewhere in London( Ilford?) in the early 1980s?
No disrespect toward StoneNYC however, am I the only one that does not take his business advise seriously?
Have Kodak Park categorized as a "historical district" so it can stay right where it is as a protected species.
OK, there are a couple of misunderstandings here I think.
In today's market, it is the move that hurts and it hurts in 2 ways. First is the move itself into a new facility. But second is the down time that takes place during the move. If Ilford (as an example) were to move, they would have to have a rather big backlog of precoated material to tide them over, or we would see products vanish during the move. But, these products have expiration dates. So there is the dilemma.
The second problem is that paper and film can be coated on the same machine, but there is cleanup time after every paper run due to dust. And so you cannot just coat paper and then film. You have to have a costly down time and cleanup party before film coating starts up again. Thus you have a complex schedule that allows for one or the other with cleanup in-between.
Add to that that tensioning must be adjusted for film types and paper. Estar, Acetate and RC each run at a different tension and pressure on the air bearings (at KP). IDK how they run at Ilford.
Just some comments in reply to posts here.
PE
This might prevent future improvements to film production, as the old ways of doing it would mean not being able to add newer technological machinery to the building, not such a good idea in practice.
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