Kodak Reintroduces Ektachrome.

[Photo Engineer]

Talking of Kodak (which I wasn't) I'll shoehorn this in here and ask PE if he knows anything about it ...

linky: Eastman-Kodak 'Abstractions' (1967)

I have no idea!

 

[Photo Engineer]

I did remember that my first post on this was on PNut about 10 years ago. It did not (AFAIK) involve anyone on APUG now. So, a little more ackground.

Chemistry is chemistry. A large quantity of chemicals that are toxic are the blood pressure medications and antacid medications measured by the EPA and comparable organizations across the world. AAMOF, I seem to remember a study in Germany on this subject. Generally, we, as individuals, cannot pollute to the extent as photographers as we can as humans taking medications.

PE

 

[Cholentpot]

I did remember that my first post on this was on PNut about 10 years ago. It did not (AFAIK) involve anyone on APUG now. So, a little more ackground.

Chemistry is chemistry. A large quantity of chemicals that are toxic are the blood pressure medications and antacid medications measured by the EPA and comparable organizations across the world. AAMOF, I seem to remember a study in Germany on this subject. Generally, we, as individuals, cannot pollute to the extent as photographers as we can as humans taking medications.

PE

I do know that we get all the pharmaceuticals floating down river from Detroit here. It's present in the Lake water. And after the lead in the pipes and paint, arsenic in the ground, asbestos in the walls, and about a thousand other things, I'm not too worried about some fixer ending up in a garbage truck. The leaking tranny on the truck that's dripping into the direct storm drain makes up for all the years of flushing stupid stuff down the P.S. toilets.

 

[mshchem]

Let's discuss real hazards. Right now I have 2 cars in my attached garage. Each has a tank with at least 40 liters of gasoline. I have a 5 gallon gas can for my riding mower too. It's a $50 industrial steel can, but it's still gasoline. Liquid propane tanks on my deck for my grill.

The last thing on my list of worries is my color chemistry I use for film and printing. Kodak in their prime designed the processes that we still use. All this stuff goes through regulatory review. The US EPA, State of California etc. Especially back when analog was king , when the volumes were huge. Kodak worked with the regulators to make sure people and the environment didn't get hurt. Follow the instructions, use some common sense.
Long gone are the days of the really dangerous stuff mercury, sodium cyanide, stuff that even trained chemists with fume hoods have avoided.

My wife and I are traveling late summer. I will be shooting 35mm and 6x6 transparencies for projection. Nothing beats a good slide show.
Best Mike

 

[mshchem]

I do know that we get all the pharmaceuticals floating down river from Detroit here. It's present in the Lake water. And after the lead in the pipes and paint, arsenic in the ground, asbestos in the walls, and about a thousand other things, I'm not too worried about some fixer ending up in a garbage truck. The leaking tranny on the truck that's dripping into the direct storm drain makes up for all the years of flushing stupid stuff down the P.S. toilets.

+1

 

[AgX]

Chemistry is chemistry. A large quantity of chemicals that are toxic are the blood pressure medications and antacid medications measured by the EPA and comparable organizations across the world. AAMOF, I seem to remember a study in Germany on this subject. Generally, we, as individuals, cannot pollute to the extent as photographers as we can as humans taking medications.

That meanwhile water quality controlling agencies and institutes have in mind sewage released drugs is partially due to the fact that industrial effluents meanwhile have been tackled.

 

[IzzyCat]

On the delay :
They are making Ektachrome 50V. A slide film with vibrant, vivid colors, so when Velvia's gone we won't regret it.

Wait, that was just a dream.

 

[NJH]

I have heard this type of thing over and over on toxicity. ALL chemicals are toxic.
PE

It's been mentioned on this forum before but tragically people die every year from drinking too much water. I guess nobody noticed that there isn't an MSDS telling us not to guzzle a gallon of water.

 

[Cholentpot]

That meanwhile water quality controlling agencies and institutes have in mind sewage released drugs is partially due to the fact that industrial effluents meanwhile have been tackled.

Let's also not mention the food industry. I work occasionally in very large commercial processing plants. Even for seemingly benign stuff there is a massive amount of chemistry that goes back into the environment. My washing machine detergent that gets used at least once a day is worse than the C-41. My sisters hair dye has the same stuff as the blix, every time you flush you're dumping another load of toxic gifts back into the environment.

Do all of you recycle all your film chips and leaders?

 

[RattyMouse]

Let's also not mention the food industry. I work occasionally in very large commercial processing plants. Even for seemingly benign stuff there is a massive amount of chemistry that goes back into the environment. My washing machine detergent that gets used at least once a day is worse than the C-41. My sisters hair dye has the same stuff as the blix, every time you flush you're dumping another load of toxic gifts back into the environment.

Do all of you recycle all your film chips and leaders?

What kind of washing machine detergent do you use that is worse than C41 chemicals????

Standard detergents are far, far safer than photographic chemicals.

 

[Cholentpot]

What kind of washing machine detergent do you use that is worse than C41 chemicals????

Standard detergents are far, far safer than photographic chemicals.

Borax, bleach, washing soda, stain remover, tide pods. Remember the kid who chewed one of those and inhaled the fumes? I've inhaled C-41 fumes many a time and I've not needed to go to emergency room because the lining on my trachea burned away.

 

[BrianShaw]

So whilst the trolls continue trolling.... how about a brief return to the topic: does anyone have any further insight into the release date for Ektachrome. A few days ago Kodak said they'd have an update ina few days.

 

[AgX]

Did they? I do not read that.
On June 3rd Kodak Alaris posted those 3 sample photos and said "follow us for more Ektachrome announcements".

And Kodak themselves yesterday introduced a skater T-shirt ...

 

[BrianShaw]

Did they? I do not read that.
On June 3rd Kodak Alaris posted those 3 sample photos and said "follow us for more Ektachrome announcements".

Of course I can't easily find them now, but I saw two people post at that time the response to questions they asked. The response was "we'll have more news in a couple of days", according to my recollection. But who knows if they meant that literally or not.

 

[AgX]

I can't easily find them either.
Announcing things via Facebook is shit. We all better not follow that and just be surprised one day. Or not.

 

[RattyMouse]

So whilst the trolls continue trolling.... how about a brief return to the topic: does anyone have any further insight into the release date for Ektachrome. A few days ago Kodak said they'd have an update ina few days.

There was supposed to be more information in a couple of days, but that time has come and gone with nothing. Having such unofficial pronouncements like that really does not inspire much.

 

[RattyMouse]

Borax, bleach, washing soda, stain remover, tide pods. Remember the kid who chewed one of those and inhaled the fumes? I've inhaled C-41 fumes many a time and I've not needed to go to emergency room because the lining on my trachea burned away.

Bleach is not detergent.

 

[BrianShaw]

I can't easily find them either.
Announcing things via Facebook is shit. We all better not follow that and just be surprised one day. Or not.

I agree... most Facebook announcements really lack credibility to me. I have a cousin that uses FB to promote his business. Daily posts; sometimes several times per day. Many are repeats; some seem real; but others really give me the impression that there is a hired kid-with-a-keyboard behind them. In one case I know a restaurant's live feed was not live. I'd call them while they were "live" but the phone didn't ring... and after a while I noticed signs that they were liars. I wasn't alone and it eventually was taken down.

Maybe I'm the one being too literal. When asked for an ETA they may have thought that posting a couple of samples was a satisfactory answer.

https://www.photrio.com/forum/threads/kodak-reintroduces-ektachrome.143089/page-48#post-2082802


https://www.photrio.com/forum/threads/kodak-reintroduces-ektachrome.143089/page-49#post-2083286


... and a couple of others with screenshots of the conversation that I recall but can't find.
might never get the promised surprise. So I watch with skepticism so if it does appear I can say "Yu were right" to the optimists.

 

[BrianShaw]

Bleach is not detergent.

"Bleach" is marketing/advertizing term... describing an effect, or group of effects, that can be produced by a large number of chemicals.

 

[RattyMouse]

"Bleach" is marketing term... describing an effect, or group of effects, that can be produced by a large number of chemicals.

None of them work via a detergent mechanism (surfactancy). They are chemically reactive.

 

[BrianShaw]

None of them work via a detergent mechanism (surfactancy). They are chemically reactive.

Yes...

 

[RattyMouse]

Health warnings (for ingestion) published by P & G for Tide Detergent: May cause transient gastrointestinal irritation. Recommended Treatment: Drink a glass of water.

Health warnings (for ingestion) published by Kodak for HC-110: CAN CAUSE KIDNEY DAMAGE, MAY CAUSE LIVER DAMAGE, MAY CAUSE BLOOD DISORDERS. Recommended treatment: Call a physician or poison control centre immediately..

I know which one is safer to ingest.

 

[Old-N-Feeble]

never mind... not going to contribute to off-topic conversation... this time

 

[Cholentpot]

"Bleach" is marketing/advertizing term... describing an effect, or group of effects, that can be produced by a large number of chemicals.

None of them work via a detergent mechanism (surfactancy). They are chemically reactive.

Yes...

Geeze, it's crap my wife puts in the washing machine. It gets flushed into the municipal sewer system. Clorox ok? Wouldn't want to get near the stuff without a respirator and gloves but I can pour gallons of it down the sink and no-one cares. What does Clorox do with bad batches? They flush it out! Same goes for the sanitizing agents that breweries use or juice plants or cheese plants.

 

[RattyMouse]

Clorox ok? Wouldn't want to get near the stuff without a respirator and gloves

Very odd.