The key to digital is the camera. I always thought of Kodak cameras as being second best to Japanese and German. Sony, a tech firm, understood that they didn't know cameras. Of course, being Japanese, they were in a better position to buy a great Japanese camera company. But I think Kodak just was too self-centered to look to others and maybe felt it was beneath them to buy a camera company. They were used to being in control and didn't see other film makers as real competition. Many times people get stuck in the past doing what they do best. It;s really hard to let go and try something different. How many people give up their career field in midlife to try something different?
I don't think so, given your "too proud" comment.You're basically agreeing with me. Whether due to inertia or stockholders or personal prejudices, they couldn't make the jump successfully.
They were spun off, because the profit margins they were returning were lower than the shareholders required.
And many of them are gone now - e.g. Eastman Kodak stores, microfilm, X-ray film, etc., etc.
Kodak at one time owned Graflex and Graphic and as a result of the loss of a court case, Kodak was considered a monopoly, stripped of those two companies, prohibited from selling film with processing in the US. That decision still holds and Kodak cannot by or take over a camera company. This has been discussed over the years on APUG and Photrio and is well known by photographers in the US and elsewhere in the world.
Kodak made and sold cameras to help increase profits from selling film and photofinishing supplies and processing. That made sense when it made sense. When it stopped serving as support for the profits that came from film and processing, they stopped making and selling cameras.
When they stopped making big profits from selling film and photofinishing supplies and processing, they started trying to replace those high profit sources with other high profit sources. Digital cameras were never going to serve that role.
I always considered Ektachrome, rather than Kodachome, blue. Fortunately, the modern Ektachome just isn’t the same.
What does manufacturing or owning a digital camera company have to do with processing film. You conflated the two and try to prove your point by claiming it was discussed here in Photrio. Lots of things said here are bogus and your statement isn't clear in any case. It's contradictory. Please provide more details.
In any case, that wouldn't necessarily apply to buying a firm to make digital cameras? In film, yes, they were considered a monopoly by the courts so owning film camera manufacturers may be an issue although they were making their own film cameras anyway. How do you explain that in light of the court decision?
But it wouldn't have been the same with digital cameras? If they bought Minolta to just produce digital cameras, on what monopoly grounds would the government object?
God I miss drinkin'. I don't miss hangovers
Short glass, a couple ice cubes, 2 shots Jack Daniel's, a couple shots of ice cold Pepsi-Cola and a squeeze of a small wedge of lime.
Kodak produced some good digital cameras for amateur use, but were too late into that market to really exploit it. Pentax, Nikon, Canon, Olympus, Samsung and probably others were already established. Kodak were not taken seriously enough for the pro market, though at one time their CCD sensors were fantastic.
They tried concentrating on selling Kodak branded printers and ink, but people stopped printing photos. Just two of Kodak's mistakes which are easy to see in hindsight, but less so at the time.
I've had precisely one hangover in my life....came after drinking enough to kill three average men in one night. I've calmed down a lot since then.
Look it up yourself. Kodak was barred from owning cameras companies and doing other things. The court orders still stand. PERIOD. What is so hard to understand about that?
Kodak produced some good digital cameras for amateur use, but were too late into that market to really exploit it. Pentax, Nikon, Canon, Olympus, Samsung and probably others were already established. Kodak were not taken seriously enough for the pro market, though at one time their CCD sensors were fantastic.
They tried concentrating on selling Kodak branded printers and ink, but people stopped printing photos. Just two of Kodak's mistakes which are easy to see in hindsight, but less so at the time.
I've had precisely one hangover in my life....came after drinking enough to kill three average men in one night. I've calmed down a lot since then.
You should look it up and provide a link. I can;t find it. You made the claim. In any case, you didn't say that in your first post. You only referred to film cameras and film. If they made a deal with Minolta to produce Kodak/Minolta Digital Cameras, I don't think monopoly would apply. Especially because they were selling their patented digital sensors to other companies who made cameras.
On May 20, 1993, Kodak filed a motion to modify or terminate antitrust decrees entered in 1921 and 1954. They lost. Here's the Brief that appealed a lower court's granting to lift the decrees: https://www.justice.gov/atr/case-do...ted-states-america-termination-consent-decree
Actually, I believe Kodak won: https://caselaw.findlaw.com/us-2nd-circuit/1300513.html
That 1995 decision is the appellate court decision affirming Kodak's win at trial.
to build an extra 1 or 2 coating lines..
coating lines that havent been built
they raised prices the other year, in order to in their words
1. create enough stability in the market via "too expensive to buy" to allow market stabilization
2. generate money for the company MAKING the film would have the cash to build an extra 1 or 2 coating lines..
coating lines that havent been built
Nobody* is talking about building a new coating line at Kodak.
* except one user here that incorrectly remembered what was said by Kodak as a reason behind one of the price increases
Nobody* is talking about building a new coating line at Kodak.
* except one user here that incorrectly remembered what was said by Kodak as a reason behind one of the price increases
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