Kodachrome

piratelogy · Jan 19, 2017

Photo Engineer said:
I did NOT say to ignore those magenta couplers. I just stated that the structure shown was wrong for one coupler. Almost all magenta couplers today are pyrazolones.

PE

Ahh, ok. I misunderstood you then.

Gerald C Koch · Jan 21, 2017

Just a note to say that organic synthesis is not easy. Many of the standard methods involve the use of some very dangerous chemicals. Certainly not something you want to do in your basement. Then too if conditions are not quite right you can end up with tar instead of the desired product. You also need considerably more knowledge than you would get from Chemistry 101. As a young student William Perkin set out to synthesize quinine one spring break. What he got was something very different.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Henry_Perkin

fstop · Jan 21, 2017

Maybe a silicon based formula would solve the problem.

Photo Engineer · Jan 21, 2017

Silicon?

Theo Sulphate · Jan 21, 2017

Silicon as in digital app inside camera or postprocessing.

I mentioned earlier that Fuji X series has film simulation modes.

falotico · Jan 21, 2017

Digital photographs are based on silicon, I think that's the point.

EK presented the public with products which were marvels in organic chemistry. It would be marvelous is anyone tries to come close to their standards in marketing a product. A Kodachrome-like film made by someone else might still be worthwhile.

Theo Sulphate · Jan 21, 2017

falotico said:
... A Kodachrome-like film made by someone else might still be worthwhile.

Unless there's substantial demand, even an E6 look-alike won't happen. However, if a significant number of people, such as in China, discovered the Kodachrome look and thought they just had to have it, it would happen.

keenmaster486 · Jan 21, 2017

We all know full well that a digital photo with a "Kodachrome" filter applied will never be the same.

Let's not give Kodak ideas. They would produce some cheesy, stupid looking, and badly made app with a name like "ezSaveR" which would be an instant flop, drive the company further in the tank, and damage their already oft-mocked image.

Photo Engineer · Jan 21, 2017

Theo Sulphate said:
Silicon as in digital app inside camera or postprocessing.

I mentioned earlier that Fuji X series has film simulation modes.

That was really my point. Kodachrome would be difficult to simulate using electronic means. It had unique features that would require more IR sensitivity and a very narrow band dye. This would probably require changes in more than two stages of the reproduction process.

PE

Sirius Glass · Jan 21, 2017

Theo Sulphate said:
Silicon as in digital app inside camera or postprocessing.

Why bother with optics at all? Just draw the image using Fauxto$hop and save the cost of a digisnapper.

piratelogy · Jan 21, 2017

Gerald C Koch said:
Just a note to say that organic synthesis is not easy. Many of the standard methods involve the use of some very dangerous chemicals. Certainly not something you want to do in your basement. Then too if conditions are not quite right you can end up with tar instead of the desired product. You also need considerably more knowledge than you would get from Chemistry 101. As a young student William Perkin set out to synthesize quinine one spring break. What he got was something very different.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Henry_Perkin

Ohh I'm well aware of that. Synthesizing them myself is well beyond my chemistry skills. If I can't get them from a chemistry supplier I'm not going to be able to get them. I've talked to Sigma Aldrich, which is where I've been getting the simpler couplers. They don't stock them but they're checking to see if they can provide them for me.

RichardJack · Jan 23, 2017

If they bring back Kodachrome 200 in 120 I will buy a few. Not 35mm, my DSLR is just as good.

BUT...I tend to agree with the last post, it is dead and will never come back.

Lets bring back the 126 cartridge while were at it?

keenmaster486 · Jan 23, 2017

RichardJack said:
Not 35mm, my DSLR is just as good.

Do we need to take you outside the camp and stone you for blasphemy or will you recant?

Sirius Glass · Jan 23, 2017

RichardJack said:
Not 35mm, my DSLR is just as good.

Such statements are for DPUG only. Please let the door hit you from behind on the way out, we do not need flame wars here.

cooltouch · Jan 23, 2017

RichardJack said:
BUT...I tend to agree with the last post, it is dead and will never come back.

Kodachrome is "dead" only because economic forces have determined that it is. Ask me, it was murdered.

piratelogy · Jan 23, 2017

cooltouch said:
Kodachrome is "dead" only because economic forces have determined that it is. Ask me, it was murdered.

I'm gonna keep working on it. I don't care if it's "dead", I'm enjoying shooting it and working on color development... There's enough old stock out there that we could all keep shooting it for quite a while.

keenmaster486 · Jan 23, 2017

Amen.

I know a guy (an aspiring pro photographer) who'd be willing to shoot a roll if you ever did a batch, so you've got at least three rolls locked in right there.

piratelogy · Jan 24, 2017

keenmaster486 said:
Amen.

I know a guy (an aspiring pro photographer) who'd be willing to shoot a roll if you ever did a batch, so you've got at least three rolls locked in right there.

Honestly a LOT of people are asking for it so I'm working on how to reasonably accommodate that, and how to make it at least somewhat cost effective for people

I'm going to run a couple OTHER variants of K14(I've been mostly doing K64 in 35mm to be consistent) and make sure it works on everything else first. I've done a LITTLE bit of K25 that turned out ok. I've got two rolls of K200 that I've not shot yet, and just yesterday someone gave me a roll of PKR64 in 120, so I'll shoot that too. Assuming all comes out consistent we can work out doing rolls for others.

keenmaster486 · Jan 24, 2017

*jumps for joy*

I still just can't believe that you're doing this, sir

flavio81 · Jan 24, 2017

piratelogy said:
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APUG friends...

Prepare for meltdown once word runs out that there is an individual that will process K14 in year 2017!

keenmaster486 · Jan 24, 2017

SHHHHHhhhh!

flavio81 · Jan 24, 2017

keenmaster486 said:
SHHHHHhhhh!

Commander Keen,
You can use your stun gun to defend our hero "Pirateology" from the attack of the Kodachrome-hungry people...

Craig · Jan 24, 2017

Theo Sulphate said:
Silicon as in digital app inside camera or postprocessing.

That already exists, there are a number of film simulation routines that can be applied to alter colour and contrast response to mimic the particular look of a film.

Theo Sulphate · Jan 24, 2017

Craig said:
That already exists, there are a number of film simulation routines that can be applied to alter colour and contrast response to mimic the particular look of a film.

Right. I mentioned earlier that my Fuji X-Pro1 does that. However, I leave it on the default setting.

twelvetone12 · Jan 24, 2017

Sigh and I was hoping to read about your process

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