Kodachrome II 8mm Developing

[Bob H]

Hi folks,

Was unsure, but this felt like the best place to post this...

While rummaging through some old boxes I recently found a roll of 8mm Kodachrome II film and I'm hoping someone here has the setup to develop it for me.

I'm aware that this can only be done now in B&W and I have no idea what's on it or if it has even been exposed, so if anyone can assist I'd be grateful.

Thank you,
Bob

 

[mshchem]

I don't know how to do it. 25 foot length would require a processor.

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[Bob H]

I'm sure it would. Thanks for the reply.

 

[koraks]

25 foot length would require a processor.

It could be done in a bucket. I think some folks do it that way.

 

[Romanko]

The roll can be developed without a processor in a special tank. LOMO (the real thing, not Lomography) used to make one decades ago, and other models exist. Most labs that process cine film would be able to do it for you. I know a few places in Sydney so you should have no problem finding one locally.
I would explore local labs before using FilmRescue as processing Kodachrome in B&W would be no different than processing a normal cine film.
If I were you I would process it as a negative since reversal could be tricky. This is how I developed several photographic rolls of Kodachrome. The results were pretty good.

 

[Nitroplait]

It could be done in a bucket. I think some folks do it that way.

Wonder how that is practically accomplished?

 

[Nitroplait]

I have no idea what's on it or if it has even been exposed

Being unfamiliar with old 8mm, but I wonder; isn’t the spool inside the can light-proof?
A bit like 220 film, with paper in each end - and wouldn’t there be some sort of indication on the end paper strip that it would have been exposed?

I am only familiar w current Super8 processing, and where I live development of a roll of vintage S8 film and scanning approaches €100 prepaid without guarantees - I don’t know if they refund scanning costs if the film is blank.

 

[koraks]

Wonder how that is practically accomplished?

Take a few buckets and a few liters of developer. Turn off lights. Dump film into bucket. Slosh around. After x minutes, transfer film to second bucket with water and some cleaning vinegar. Then into third bucket with fixer. Not rocket science; it's just a crude approach and yes, there's a risk of damaging the emulsion in places, but hey, it's moving images so a defect on a frame here and there doesn't matter that much as it's only visible for 42 milliseconds.

 

[Nitroplait]

It's just a crude approach

No kidding!

But probably acceptable if one has no expectations of the roll holding something of value.

 

[Don_ih]

Being unfamiliar with old 8mm, but I wonder; isn’t the spool inside the can light-proof?
A bit like 220 film, with paper in each end - and wouldn’t there be some sort of indication on the end paper strip that it would have been exposed?

A double-8 spool is fully opaque with no holes, but the outside winding of film will be seen when you remove it from the can. You load the film, which sacrifices the first several feet by being exposed to light, but the remjet (pretty sure there's remjet on Kodachrome) does a good job of blocking light from the rest of the film. After the spool runs to the end (exposed), you remove it and turn it over and feed it back through again to expose the other side. Develop then slit the film.

 

[Agulliver]

What you need is a cine enthusiast with a Lomo tank or a Morse rewind tank to process this. I do have a Lomo tank but I've never had success with old Kodachrome so I am very reluctant to try processing someone else's film.

 

[guangong]

Take a few buckets and a few liters of developer. Turn off lights. Dump film into bucket. Slosh around. After x minutes, transfer film to second bucket with water and some cleaning vinegar. Then into third bucket with fixer. Not rocket science; it's just a crude approach and yes, there's a risk of damaging the emulsion in places, but hey, it's moving images so a defect on a frame here and there doesn't matter that much as it's only visible for 42 milliseconds.

Ditto. No need for a cinema developing tank for a one time use. With bucket large enough, 25 ft of film will squiggle freely. Wear gloves. there should be little danger of scratching film.

 

[Sharktooth]

Why not just cut off a few feet from the roll and process that. If there's something useful on the roll, you can decide if you want to change the process for "improved" results. If there's nothing there, then you can throw out the rest.

 

[mshchem]

So regarding original question, is there anyone who can help out the OP?

 

[Nitroplait]

So regarding original question, is there anyone who can help out the OP?

Isn’t that what is happening? Several possible ways of approaching the task has already surfaced during this discussion.

 

[mshchem]

Hi folks,

Was unsure, but this felt like the best place to post this...

While rummaging through some old boxes I recently found a roll of 8mm Kodachrome II film and I'm hoping someone here has the setup to develop it for me.

I'm aware that this can only be done now in B&W and I have no idea what's on it or if it has even been exposed, so if anyone can assist I'd be grateful.

Thank you,
Bob

So, to be clear you are asking if any member here can process this? Do you want it as a B&W positive that can be watched with a projector?

You're not going to try and process it yourself under any circumstances?

Obviously it can be done, the likelihood of getting anything without an expert developing this first as a black and white negative, then using high resolution scans and some enhancement software is low.

No quick solution for 60 year old Kodachrome.

Best Regards Mike

 

[blee1996]

Hi, here is the B&W (negative) processing guide for Kodachrome that has been tested in real life:

Finding Kodachrome and Bringing Back Color (the Digital Way)- By Zheng Li

Some of us know Kodachrome from the iconic Afghan Girl photo by National Geographic's Steve McCurry. Some of us might even have watched the 2017 movie of the same name, about an estranged son trying to develop the last few rolls of exposed Kodachrome from his late father. Some of us, lucky...

www.35mmc.com

If you want to process it into B&W positive, you might have to experiment with light exposure between developers and bleach/fix.

 

[Don_ih]

I would be very hesitant attempting to process film that old as a positive. Fog is the enemy of reversal.

 

[Bob H]

Wow! I didn't expect so much awesome feedback. Thank you, guys!

Take a few buckets and a few liters of developer. Turn off lights. Dump film into bucket. Slosh around. After x minutes, transfer film to second bucket with water and some cleaning vinegar. Then into third bucket with fixer. Not rocket science

With bucket large enough, 25 ft of film will squiggle freely. Wear gloves. there should be little danger of scratching film.

Ditto. No need for a cinema developing tank for a one time use. With bucket large enough, 25 ft of film will squiggle freely. Wear gloves. there should be little danger of scratching film.

I like this bucket idea. and even though I know nothing about developing, I am sure someone near me does... and also has the required stuff.

And, [B]mshchem[/B], the answer to your question is, or was yes. However, that was when I figured it may take some kind of serious gadgetry to do this. Now, with the ideas provided, AND provided I can locate some developing enthusiast(s) locally, I feel this may be simpler that expected. Thanks for having my 6. and I will be taking all feedback given to heart.

Also, [B]blee1996[/B]... thank you for that link! I will check it out as well.

Not sure how long til this gets done, but I'll make a note to follow up with my results. After all is said and done... I hope the dang this isn't blank!

Thank you all again for all your responses!