KA: Kodachrome "just not practical to try to replicate in today's market."

[slackercrurster]

Don't count on it. Kodachrome revivalist posts/threads will continue here as long as PHOTRIO exists. After that, they'll show up elsewhere.

Sure people always have hopes and dream. Especially artists. If an artist can't dream they are done for.

Kodachorme was in a class by itself, just magnificent media. In my archive I have Kodachromes going back to 1939 / 1940 that look good. Prior to that the formula was different and they faded.

Sad, eventually all this tech will be lost. Just like trying to recreate Autochromes.

 

[RattyMouse]

Sure people always have hopes and dream. Especially artists. If an artist can't dream they are done for.

Kodachorme was in a class by itself, just magnificent media. In my archive I have Kodachromes going back to 1939 / 1940 that look good. Prior to that the formula was different and they faded.

Sad, eventually all this tech will be lost. Just like trying to recreate Autochromes.

Kodachrome...THE most overrated film. Ever. The one thing that makes me want to go digital, is to avoid the endless blather about a dead film that isnt even remotely going to reappear. Ever.

 

[BrianShaw]

Kodachrome...THE most overrated film. Ever. The one thing that makes me want to go digital, is to avoid the endless blather about a dead film that isnt even remotely going to reappear. Ever.

... and endless blabber (both film and audio recordings).

 

[Helios 1984]

Kodachrome...THE most overrated film. Ever.

The mysterious power of popular culture, it transformed Warhol into an art genius, put Che Guevera on T-Shirts, and made Ringo Starr one of the best drummers of all time.

 

[fdonadio]

Just like trying to recreate Autochromes.

Yea, but recreating Autochromes is a personal endeavor. The process is somewhat documented and all it takes is someone willing to make it happen, possessing the necessary materials, capable of following instructions, preferably with a little knowledge of basic chemistry... and it it’s most certain this person will achieve acceptable results.

Recreating Kodachrome involves adapting formulas to be coated with a different coating machine (and probably on a different support), recreating the processing machines and all the chemistry required and setting some of these machines in strategic points of the planet. All this infrastructure to process one film from one manufacturer. Makes no economic sense, even if it costs a premium.

IMHO, the amount of work involved in bringing Kodachrome back makes recreating Autochromes look like a piece of cake.

 

[removed account4]

And more than a little of the vinyl sold today is purchased because it is "cool", and played on cheap record players that sound like sh!t, the audio equivalent of a Holga

i always thought the white noise saying "shhhhhhh" when i played my cheep stuff was tell ing me to keep it a secret ..

 

[removed account4]

The people you are referring to are not serious, dedicated listeners.

really ?
i know plenty of serious dedicated listeners of music and they listen
to cd's and enjoy listening to cds... still probably has vinyl
( on in particular i haven't asked in a long time )
not sure if he convereted his vinyl to digits, or just bought duplicates of everything ...
serious vinyl user that he used the discwasher system to put that weird film on his
albums to remove dust, that he exchanged all his sleeves
for different ones and that he probably had/s top shelf turntables and cd players .. but i am guessing
he plays his cd's through his computer system now, onhis phone in his house in his car,
anywhere he wants .. and it sounds pretty good.
naaa not serious ... he also has a wall of laser discs and dvd's .. no projector and i don't think a vhs or betamax
( even though betamax is so much better than the rest of them ) ...
regardingkodachrome ..
to quote bonz
its dead jim ..
they're gonna need more than a bricklayer or a magician to bring it back
unless they make a filter or trade mark the name and call a new set of cheep alkaline batteries "kodachrome"
polaroid batteries sell out quick at the dollar store and family dollar . sales are almost as good as 5lb bags frozen chicken parts for $1

 

[Sirius Glass]

i always thought the white noise saying "shhhhhhh" when i played my cheep stuff was tell ing me to keep it a secret ..

One of my daughters complains about the FM hiss on radio.

 

[Theo Sulphate]

This is where I'll have to agree with KR: audiophiles are interested in the equipment rather than the music and sometimes will have so little technical knowledge that it's laughable; music lovers love the music no matter what crappy sound system it's coming from.

https://kenrockwell.com/audio/audiophile.htm

(The best thing on that page is a link to the cargo cult video)

 

[faberryman]

This is where I'll have to agree with KR: audiophiles are interested in the equipment rather than the music and sometimes will have so little technical knowledge that it's laughable; music lovers love the music no matter what crappy sound system it's coming from.

https://kenrockwell.com/audio/audiophile.html

Having run a high-end audio website for nearly a decade, and having met thousands of audiophiles from across the country, I couldn't disagree more. The link is just more drivel from Ken Rockwell.

 

[RattyMouse]

This is where I'll have to agree with KR: audiophiles are interested in the equipment rather than the music

Absolute rubbish. Every piece of audio equipment i ever bought HAD to pass the music test. It either added to my enjoyment of the music or it moved along. If the gear did not provide a demonstrable increase in value to my musical enjoyment I had ZERO interest in it.

 

[RattyMouse]

Having run a high-end audio website for nearly a decade, and having met thousands of audiophiles from across the country, I couldn't disagree more. The link is just more drivel from Ken Rockwell.

+1000

 

[Sirius Glass]

Having run a high-end audio website for nearly a decade, and having met thousands of audiophiles from across the country, I couldn't disagree more. The link is just more drivel from Ken Rockwell.

Absolute rubbish. Every piece of audio equipment i ever bought HAD to pass the music test. It either added to my enjoyment of the music or it moved along. If the gear did not provide a demonstrable increase in value to my musical enjoyment I had ZERO interest in it.

+1000

+ 1 * (1,000)2

I read articles by Ken Rockwell when I am suffering the side effects of eating too much cheese.

 

[E. von Hoegh]

This is where I'll have to agree with KR: audiophiles are interested in the equipment rather than the music and sometimes will have so little technical knowledge that it's laughable; music lovers love the music no matter what crappy sound system it's coming from.

https://kenrockwell.com/audio/audiophile.htm

(The best thing on that page is a link to the cargo cult video)

I agree but... you are talking about audiophools, the sort who buy "pre-tested fuses", $300 low oxygen copper line cords, and such rubbish. I've a friend who is a true audiophile, and can afford whatever he wants. He drives a $7000 pair of speakers and a self designed & fabricated subwoofer using a pair of 8" carbon fiber dome drivers with a slightly modified Dynaco don't remember the model but it uses EL34s, the sound is gorgeous.
You are 100% correct anent music lovers.

 

[E. von Hoegh]

One of my daughters complains about the FM hiss on radio.

I remember avoiding those "wall of televisions" displays in stores when I was a kid, the massed 15.75kc horizontal oscillators went into my ears like icepicks.

 

[Theo Sulphate]

Having run a high-end audio website for nearly a decade, and having met thousands of audiophiles from across the country, I couldn't disagree more. ...

Absolute rubbish. Every piece of audio equipment i ever bought HAD to pass the music test. It either added to my enjoyment of the music or it moved along. ...

+ 1 * (1,000)2
...

Regarding audiophiles, I suppose it's not really different than photographers or amateurs such as ourselves when we log on here and yak about equipment. Most of us appreciate the photo and some are very talented.

Still, the green pen for coating the edge of CD's, if that really happened, is funny.

 

[E. von Hoegh]

+ 1 * (1,000)2

I read articles by Ken Rockwell when I am suffering the side effects of eating too much cheese.

When I get constipated I get a mcdonalds sausage biscuit, 45 minutes later, fwoosh.
Ken gets it right once in a while.
Hey, go to yootoob and listen to "Constipation Blues", by Jalacee Hawkins.

 

[BrianShaw]

This thread is more stupid than the deleted thread. What a waste of brain cells. oh, the humanity...

 

[Photo Engineer]

Well, at least it is not about Kodachrome!!!

PE

 

[BAC1967]

I’ve been ignoring this thread for a while. I come back to see what the discussion could possibly be about only to find constepation and audiophiles. I guess that’s why we have forums, to make conversation.

 

[Lionel1972]

Back on topic: Anyone saw the Kodachrome movie on Netflix? I have a technical question about the Kodachrome photos displayed during the end credits. What is the trick used to make those Kodachrome look so amazing? I mean the contrast and colors are out of this world. Anyone knows?

 

[Agulliver]

Audiophiles or audiophools?

I'm a trained musician. I've been a music lover since before I could read. I have extraordinarily good ears. I am both a music lover and an audiophile. I simply cannot relax and listen to music through any system which doesn't pass some baseline quality....and for me that bar is set fairly high. I spent most of my teens auditioning components, amps, building my own speakers (which are now 29 years old)...I'd take a handful of my own LPs and CDs to a reputable retailer and audition components. In the end, I built a system with which I am happy. Music is *very* important to my life, even keeps my sanity from flying away. But I do agree there are a few people out there who will go for the "snake oil"...the $400 fuses or £1000 per metre cables....or crystals to adjust the resonant aura of their magical turntables.....

Kodachrome....where I disagree with entities like Ratty Mouse is that I loved it. The look (especially landscapes and low light long exposures....Vegas on K'chrome is gorgeous).....the longevity....my slides and movie film will long be viewable after I am worm food (or more likely ashes). I miss Kodachrome, and wish it were still with us. But I accept it's not coming back...unless I won that £121 million on the lottery and even then....

 

[trendland]

Back on topic: Anyone saw the Kodachrome movie on Netflix? I have a technical question about the Kodachrome photos displayed during the end credits. What is the trick used to make those Kodachrome look so amazing? I mean the contrast and colors are out of this world. Anyone knows?

Yeah - PE just mentioned it : "At least it is not about Kodakchrome".....So let me first state in short the following.I realy don't like to come off topic in that way some others did it here. I can understand if some have a total different look to issues about Kodakchrome - but who can say what will happen in the future or who is right and who isn't. So why is the culture of argumentation gone ? To state off topics is no serious way.
Back to your question : Ideed the quality of that image movie is quite amazing (from the technical side).
Because it has to be in such quality.
(It is advertising).
I felt the same as you mentioned : "How did they manage that quality with Kodachrome in Super8 format"
A simple reason : It is not all from Kodachrome........They filmed szenes of this comercial with commonly digital techniques
- from my point with 4k video

We may discuss if it is allowed - but don't forget it is just a comercial trailer! So we may say : "They have just forgoten to mark the original Kodachrome szenes."with regards


PS : Have a look again into the part with the two young nice looking girls at the beginning of that movie (hope we are talking about the same trailer) that's all digital filmed

 

[Sirius Glass]

This thread is more stupid than the deleted thread. What a waste of brain cells. oh, the humanity...

At least the deleted thread was funny and did not have anything about Kodachrome!

 

[trendland]

Back on topic: Anyone saw the Kodachrome movie on Netflix? I have a technical question about the Kodachrome photos displayed during the end credits. What is the trick used to make those Kodachrome look so amazing? I mean the contrast and colors are out of this world. Anyone knows?

Sorry Lionel - we are indeed not talking about the same film. ...
The netflix you mentioned isn't that Kodak comercial I have in mind


It is the cinema (blockbuster)
road movie of Mark Raso with Ed Harris - right ?
Well - color looks in cinema movies are created from digital manipulation since many many years. Today that is no great task at all. You can use the normal stuff (Vision 3) and give it every color balance you need in post production.
with regards

PS : My oldstyle Samsung Mobile Phone with 500Mbyte RAM isn't able to post allways corect on Photrio (because of less RAM and old firefox browser) but it can easyly create diferent color looks via "androvid apk" to short full hd movies...