KA: Kodachrome "just not practical to try to replicate in today's market."

[RattyMouse]

The Chinese that I knew from Taiwan and Hong Kong seem to have "let go" better than some others I guess.

PE

I was in Taiwan one time, having dinner with a distributor of ours and his wife. The topic of conversation was China/Taiwan relationships. At the time there was some tension rising between the two so the subject was very topical. During the discussion, the wife of our distributor slammed down her hands on the table and yelled out loud, "I'd rather be ruled by the Japanese, than mainland China!!". Wow, that was intense to hear.

 

[Theo Sulphate]

I really like how the US and Japan were able to bury the hatchet after a pretty brutal war. I love going to Japan and meeting Japanese people. They are extraordinarily kind. ...

Yes, you make a great point. I love the Japanese people and culture.

 

[fdonadio]

Based on your reasoning since vinyl discs sold miserably « at the end of their life » when CD took over, then there were no chance at all it would be sold all over again today.

Vinyl is selling well today not because of its inherent quality or anything like that, despite what audiophiles would say.

In a world where most people just want to listen to music — as opposed to owning a record — it magically happened that the ones who do like to own the record aren’t interested in a small and convenient shiny disc.

 

[Theo Sulphate]

... Either I used only 10' or I flipped the roll and used 35'. No matter: one day I'll find out when I finish the roll, open the camera, and see whether the original spool or the K II spool has film on it.
...

Yesterday I took the camera out for photos. Yes: I'd used only 10' of film 40 years ago, so I had 40' remaining.

I've sent the film off to Kodak for processing - I should have it back next week.

Oh, wait...

Well, the real story of what happened is here

 

[fdonadio]

So tell me, what makes Ektachrome particularly favourable, suited or better to Ilfochrome Classic than other E6 materials?

Wrong question. Here’s why: Kodak isn’t bringing Ektachrome back because of still photographers; they’re bringing it back because of the Super-8 camera they should have released along with it.

It would not be very good for the cinema students to shoot Vision 3 negative stock, get it processed, then copied to intermediate positive film and, then, have that scanned. It would be the right thing to do, in my opinion, because it’s the way it’s actually done. But it’s way easier to get that Ektachrome processed and projected immediately... or edited on a moviola...

Even though the camera won’t be cheap, the added cost of intermediate copies would not be good for students pockets.

Having Ektachrome back in 135 format is a collateral effect, since it’s coated on the same Estar base. That’s the reason why it won’t be available in 120 on release — maybe it never will — since medium format film base is thinner.

 

[E. von Hoegh]

Vinyl is selling well today not because of its inherent quality or anything like that, despite what audiophiles would say.

In a world where most people just want to listen to music — as opposed to owning a record — it magically happened that the ones who do like to own the record aren’t interested in a small and convenient shiny disc.

Quite a few of us kept our vinyl and also use compact discs, for many reasons. And more than a little of the vinyl sold today is purchased because it is "cool", and played on cheap record players that sound like sh!t, the audio equivalent of a Holga.

 

[fdonadio]

Quite a few of us kept our vinyl and also use compact discs, for many reasons. And more than a little of the vinyl sold today is purchased because it is "cool", and played on cheap record players that sound like sh!t, the audio equivalent of a Holga.

What I meant is that CD’s are as dead as vinyl. Nowadays, most people download or stream music. Vinyl never died and what killed the CD was distribution over the internet.

Now, if you want to have something on physical media, don’t you agree vinyl is way cooler than CD? CD’s are more convenient, smaller, easier to take care and they won’t wear out (from physical contact with a needle, I mean), but vinyl has all the glamour, the bigger cover and insert... and, when played on Hi-Fi gear, that really warm bass.

 

[E. von Hoegh]

What I meant is that CD’s are as dead as vinyl. Nowadays, most people download or stream music. Vinyl never died and what killed the CD was distribution over the internet.

Now, if you want to have something on physical media, don’t you agree vinyl is way cooler than CD? CD’s are more convenient, smaller, easier to take care and they won’t wear out (from physical contact with a needle, I mean), but vinyl has all the glamour, the bigger cover and insert... and, when played on Hi-Fi gear, that really warm bass.

Album art! Some of it is fantastic!
I like both media, they each have advantages. As for "coolness", you need vinyl played through a hollow state 60s Dynaco - glow in the dark electronics

 

[George Mann]

Vinyl is selling well today not because of its inherent quality or anything like that, despite what audiophiles would say.

Wrong!

 

[foc]

We have the movie, now the magazine.

 

[faberryman]

Vinyl is selling well today not because of its inherent quality or anything like that, despite what audiophiles would say.

Wrong!

Take this to an audio forum. One analog vs. digital debate around here is more than enough (although the arguments are largely the same).

 

[fdonadio]

Take this to an audio forum. One analog vs. digital debate around here is more than enough (although the arguments are largely the same).

I dont think I said it before, but I like vinyl much better than CD. Still, the reason for the recent commercial success (for today’s standards) of the vinyl is not its alleged technical superiority. That was my point.

 

[NJH]

Especially when people are playing it on decks that converts sound to digital output over USB.

 

[MattKing]

We have the movie, now the magazine.
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Not to mention this film-centric free advertising too!

http://www.news1130.com/2018/04/19/ed-harris-on-yoga-kodachrome-and-living-in-the-moment/

 

[George Mann]

Still, the reason for the recent commercial success (for today’s standards) of the vinyl is not its alleged technical superiority.

You cannot dismiss the droves of audio enthusiasts that have returned to vinyl during this "revival" period because of it's more natural sound.

 

[George Mann]

Especially when people are playing it on decks that converts sound to digital output over USB.

The people you are referring to are not serious, dedicated listeners. Yes, they have had a measurable impact on the sales and popularity of vinyl playback, but they are a curious minority in the driving force of this revival.

 

[fdonadio]

You cannot dismiss the droves of audio enthusiasts that have returned to vinyl during this "revival" period because of it's more natural sound.

Of course, not. I am one of those.

Still, the vinyl is cooler, more collectible, it’s “retro” — and you can’t deny the fact that the so-called “hipsters” love “retro”.

Talking about hipsters, lots of them like film too. Some of them like film with distorted colors, unexpected artifacts and some even say it’s “lo-fi”. I don’t think they would consider Kodachrome more retro than any other film.

 

[Agulliver]

Count me as one of those people who never stopped listening to vinyl. I realised circa 1989 that CD could never match vinyl....after auditioning a lot of CD players and buying at £500 unit myself I ended up spending a fruitless two years trying to enjoy music from CDs and purchasing a better turntable in 1991....which I still have and likely shall for the rest of my life. I have never, even once, heard a good "red book" CD. I've mastered my own, and they are still sorely lacking. But do bear in mind that even in my mid forties I can hear a whisker over 20kHz and can distinguish a 1Hz difference in tones up to 8kHz. Likely my ears and aural processing are different to that experienced by most people.

I realised the tide was turning around 8 years ago when my cousin came to visit with his young son (10 at the time I think). I went off to search for a record that myself and my cousin used to listen to in the 80s and his son followed me..."Oooooh...vinyl...did you know that sounds much better than CD?"

I work with teenage kids, and I have a turntable in my office. Nothing fancy, almost "black plastic crap" but it does the job. Let me tell you, teenagers might spend their lives hooked up to headphones on their phones but they appreciate Led Zeppelin from vinyl as much as any 50 year old...my assistant has amassed quite a collection of heavy metal records which he plays here while he waits until he can afford something a lot better than a Crosley. And...how many of us started listening to records on Dansettes and similar back in the day? Not much better than a Crosley of today. Don't be too snobbish at the young people...even the hipsters....enjoying analogue. If they keep the record presses going and the film production lines going then I'm grateful. I despise most hip-hop, but really...without fans of that genre and later the hipsters the vinyl revival wouldn't have happened because the presses would have been stopped. I am grateful they kept the lathes and presses going.


However, I am yet to hear any young person tell me "film is better than digital"....though several younger people I know shoot film occasionally for the kick they get from it. I do see students with 70s and 80s Nikon SLRs out shooting in town now...probably provided by the local university which still teaches film photography and darkroom techniques.

None of the above has much bearing on Kodachrome.

 

[OldReliable]

However, I am yet to hear any young person tell me "film is better than digital"

I can. I’m 16, and I much prefer film to digital. I got into shooting a few years ago, after finding a box of old Kodachrome slides in my uncle’s closet. Some of these slides are as old as the late ‘50s and (unsurprisingly) they still look gorgeous! I fell in love with the way film reproduced colors and detail, so I picked up a Canon T50 from a swap meet to see If I liked shooting film myself. I absolutely did, and here I am now! A few months ago, I stumbled across PHOTRIO (then APUG) and was overjoyed to see a community of people like myself who love film and are committed to keeping it alive. Even with all the recent discontinuations (I’m looking at you Fuji!), I definitely don’t see my self stopping anytime soon.

 

[E. von Hoegh]

I can. I’m 16, and I much prefer film to digital. I got into shooting a few years ago, after finding a box of old Kodachrome slides in my uncle’s closet. Some of these slides are as old as the late ‘50s and (unsurprisingly) they still look gorgeous! I fell in love with the way film reproduced colors and detail, so I picked up a Canon T50 from a swap meet to see If I liked shooting film myself. I absolutely did, and here I am now! A few months ago, I stumbled across PHOTRIO (then APUG) and was overjoyed to see a community of people like myself who love film and are committed to keeping it alive. Even with all the recent discontinuations (I’m looking at you Fuji!), I definitely don’t see my self stopping anytime soon.

Maybe there's hope for the world yet!

 

[mshchem]

I can. I’m 16, and I much prefer film to digital. I got into shooting a few years ago, after finding a box of old Kodachrome slides in my uncle’s closet. Some of these slides are as old as the late ‘50s and (unsurprisingly) they still look gorgeous! I fell in love with the way film reproduced colors and detail, so I picked up a Canon T50 from a swap meet to see If I liked shooting film myself. I absolutely did, and here I am now! A few months ago, I stumbled across PHOTRIO (then APUG) and was overjoyed to see a community of people like myself who love film and are committed to keeping it alive. Even with all the recent discontinuations (I’m looking at you Fuji!), I definitely don’t see my self stopping anytime soon.

Get some Fujichrome and a decent Carousel projector. An incident meter helps me to get slides right, the free cell phone incident meter app works well. Get a simple E6 kit and start to process your own. Slides are magical little unique art works. I shoot 120 6x6 cm. slides and project. It like IMAX in your living room. No LED screen comes close.
I processed my first roll of slide film when I was in 8th grade. Process E3, look it up . I still vividly remember pulling the film off the reel, looks milky at first, when I held it up to the light and the colors popped through ,pure magic. And it still is!
Best Regards Mike

 

[Europan]

I can. I’m 16,

Hard to believe. Your grammar and writing seem way too good for a teenager of today. Commata in the right place, the sentences you compose, how come you to call yourself old reliable at the age of sixteen?

 

[RattyMouse]

My neighbor grew up right next to the third largest collection of Roy Clark posters in all of the state of Minnesota.

 

[Sal Santamaura]

...However, I am yet to hear any young person tell me "film is better than digital"...

...I’m 16, and I much prefer film to digital...

Your age has been questioned based on your writing ability. If you really are that young, here's a little advice to improve your communication skill even more.

"I prefer" is not the same as "is better."

 

[Sirius Glass]

I can. I’m 16, and I much prefer film to digital. I got into shooting a few years ago, after finding a box of old Kodachrome slides in my uncle’s closet. Some of these slides are as old as the late ‘50s and (unsurprisingly) they still look gorgeous! I fell in love with the way film reproduced colors and detail, so I picked up a Canon T50 from a swap meet to see If I liked shooting film myself. I absolutely did, and here I am now! A few months ago, I stumbled across PHOTRIO (then APUG) and was overjoyed to see a community of people like myself who love film and are committed to keeping it alive. Even with all the recent discontinuations (I’m looking at you Fuji!), I definitely don’t see my self stopping anytime soon.

There you have it!