KA: Kodachrome "just not practical to try to replicate in today's market."

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PE are you chained down next to Grandma's cesspool? We know that Kodachrome is processed in a cesspool.
 

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Fuji's well on its way to abandoning E-6, probably all film. Reviving Ektachrome makes at least some sense in that context. It's possible to discuss the wisdom of doing so, but at least the project is slightly rational. Kodachrome -- would be suicidal for Eastman Kodak. A corporate re-run of George Eastman's "my work is done, why wait?" note.
You realy got it : The case you speculate about Fuji. Therefore we just can count on Kodak. In any way - in any direction.
There will be no simple alternate.
I realy would wish every possible success to Ferania but I realy doubt on their advance in direction of E6.
They will deliver people with further bw film (I hope).
To count on Fuji (from financial background they are able to continue with everything) is a more illusion than to hope on a Kodachrome rebirth. That should be quite clear.
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PE are you chained down next to Grandma's cesspool? We know that Kodachrome is processed in a cesspool.
Not around here. Up here in the mountings, you have to drop a bucket down into the pit of a flooded outhouse, strain out the corncobs & pinecones, and you're good to go.
 

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What about if the various subtopics of this general topic were to be discussed separately? By this I mean in the same thread but identified as to which subtopic. The subtopics as I see them are the technical aspects of cloning K14 products and processing, creating new products and processing that have some resemblance to Kodachrome (e.g. dye couplers not integrated into the film itself), and the business/financial aspects. These subtopics are distinct, though there are some overlaps and relations between them.
 
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So just to clear up- I think everyone I'm working with is well aware that there will be no more raw Kodachrome made. Only the outstanding Kodachrome is our expectations.

Speaking for myself: getting my project finished after 8+ years has a value beyond the established market rate for processing a roll of film.

I also don't think anyone thinks that this will be driven by normal markets. If Kodachrome comes 'back' it will be wildly expensive. It'll be an old Model T: an expensive item, in which a newer version is available, cheaper and better. Live with it, there's niche markets all over the world for wildly specific items- Kodachrome could just be another one of those.

This project is a piece of art, and I feel that those working on behalf of cracking this code, it is also an exercise of creativity and craftsmanship.

Finally, I would encourage folks to release themselves from their pessimism. The folks I'm working with, for the most part- who all have accounts here at APUG aren't interested in being here for that reason. So when I write, that I've been putting in this time and going to places, it doesn't seem constructive to read people saying its untrue or inserting bigfoot comments.

I think this valuable forum could be very constructive. But each time I visit here, I'm reminded that going it alone is likely a better option for my spirit.

Here's the inside of the K-Lab I visited in November. It is privately owned and the owner gave me permission to post pictures. Sorry to you negative Nancies for not having included the day's newspaper.
 

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Kodak's new Kodachrome shall be called Ektachrome!​
 

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Perhaps it's time to unleash the rare Kodak Aerochrome to spot PE's barn.
On a more serious note, Ektachrome Infrared is quite an interesting film. I managed to get just a bit of it. Perhaps just a bit more feasible than Kodachrome to manufacture, having to make those rare expensive IR sensitive dyes.

Kodak's new Kodachrome shall be called Ektachrome!
Kodachrome came back but it's a magazine, plus they are on promo "Buy Issue 3— Get 50% off Issue 2".
 

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Perhaps it's time to unleash the rare Kodak Aerochrome to spot PE's barn.
On a more serious note, Ektachrome Infrared is quite an interesting film. I managed to get just a bit of it. Perhaps just a bit more feasible than Kodachrome to manufacture, having to make those rare expensive IR sensitive dyes.


Kodachrome came back but it's a magazine, plus they are on promo "Buy Issue 3— Get 50% off Issue 2".


I never had the opportunity to use Infrared Ektachrome.
 

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So just to clear up- I think everyone I'm working with is well aware that there will be no more raw Kodachrome made. Only the outstanding Kodachrome is our expectations.

Speaking for myself: getting my project finished after 8+ years has a value beyond the established market rate for processing a roll of film.

I also don't think anyone thinks that this will be driven by normal markets. If Kodachrome comes 'back' it will be wildly expensive. It'll be an old Model T: an expensive item, in which a newer version is available, cheaper and better. Live with it, there's niche markets all over the world for wildly specific items- Kodachrome could just be another one of those.

This project is a piece of art, and I feel that those working on behalf of cracking this code, it is also an exercise of creativity and craftsmanship.

Finally, I would encourage folks to release themselves from their pessimism. The folks I'm working with, for the most part- who all have accounts here at APUG aren't interested in being here for that reason. So when I write, that I've been putting in this time and going to places, it doesn't seem constructive to read people saying its untrue or inserting bigfoot comments.

I think this valuable forum could be very constructive. But each time I visit here, I'm reminded that going it alone is likely a better option for my spirit.

Here's the inside of the K-Lab I visited in November. It is privately owned and the owner gave me permission to post pictures. Sorry to you negative Nancies for not having included the day's newspaper.
Trouble is, we're tired of hearing about Kodachrome. Why didn't you take your pictures on film that could be processed?
 

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What about if the various subtopics of this general topic were to be discussed separately? By this I mean in the same thread but identified as to which subtopic. The subtopics as I see them are the technical aspects of cloning K14 products and processing, creating new products and processing that have some resemblance to Kodachrome (e.g. dye couplers not integrated into the film itself), and the business/financial aspects. These subtopics are distinct, though there are some overlaps and relations between them.
Cloning the big Fiat is more possible. Seriously.
 

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I never had the opportunity to use Infrared Ektachrome.
There's a listing on the classifieds here selling off a stash of 120 Aerochrome, $50 a roll. The guy who cuts it down from Aerial rolls still sells it. As it was relatively affordable and a film that follows the way of Kodachrome, I grabbed some to indulge in magenta-red foliage landscapes.
I thought all stocks ran out in 2013, but Dean told me there's enough for a year at current sales rates, so since then there must have been some more bulk unearthed since then.
 
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Trouble is, we're tired of hearing about Kodachrome. Why didn't you take your pictures on film that could be processed?

My film is about the last space shuttle launches- part of why I started this project was because both the space shuttle and Kodachrome were triumphs of Americana and both calling it quits around the same time. I loved the idea of making a movie in which the subject and the medium were related. When we started, all launches were planned to happen before Dwayne's stopped. When the missions were pushed back, I still thought the film was special because the film I shot it on mattered- in a way, the film and the subject were bonded. If I were to change course in the middle of the project it would lose what I felt was special.
 
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