KA: Kodachrome "just not practical to try to replicate in today's market."

[Photo Engineer]

Sal, there are at least 3 if not more here on this site and others elsewhere.

As for Steve, he offered it as noted above, but no one took him up on it. So there it is.

Oh, and one person has coated and processed elements of Kodachrome using his home-made coating machine. That too is on this site.

PE

 

[Sal Santamaura]

Sal, there are at least 3 if not more here on this site and others elsewhere...

As I said, for me "at least three and others elsewhere" isn't even remotely equivalent to "many, many."

 

[E. von Hoegh]

You can make a frog drunk by immersing it in wine for one minute.

 

[Sirius Glass]

You can make a frog drunk by immersing it in wine for one minute.

Would that work with chocolate martini's?

 

[Theo Sulphate]

I have seen dark grainy photos of a K-lab somewhere in Argentina.

 

[MattKing]

The sad thing about this thread is that it spends too much time on old Kodachrome, and not nearly enough time on "today's market".

 

[Sirius Glass]

The sad thing about this thread that I see is a waste of bandwidth on the internet.

 

[Sal Santamaura]

The sad thing about this thread that I see is a waste of bandwidth on the internet.

I"d venture to guess that your observation applies to 99%+ of Internet bandwidth consumed. Not just this thread. Fortunately, the cost of bandwidth has declined over time.

 

[removed account4]

I"d venture to guess that your observation applies to 99%+ of Internet bandwidth consumed. Not just this thread. Fortunately, the cost of bandwidth has declined over time.

ummm wait, is this the deleated thread ?

 

[E. von Hoegh]

Sal, there are at least 3 if not more here on this site and others elsewhere.

As for Steve, he offered it as noted above, but no one took him up on it. So there it is.

Oh, and one person has coated and processed elements of Kodachrome using his home-made coating machine. That too is on this site.

PE

Hey! Kodachrome on glass plates!

 

[foc]

At the recent Grassy Knoll Symposium (held in the Hy-Brasil Hotel in Atlantis) things got a little out of hand when the non return of Kodachrome was mentioned.

 

[E. von Hoegh]

(snickers)

 

[Lionel1972]

PE seems to imply that processing Kodachrome is not an impossible task (and that even some people achieved it on their own). He also wrote in an old post that as far as he knew, the chemicals involved in coating Kodachrome were not worse than current films made today. So what is truly the reason everybody seems to think it would be so impossible to revive except that old feeling that what was once a commercial failure should be left dead for ever?

 

[removed account4]

PE seems to imply that processing Kodachrome is not an impossible task (and that even some people achieved it on their own). He also wrote in an old post that as far as he knew, the chemicals involved in coating Kodachrome were not worse than current films made today. So what is truly the reason everybody seems to think it would be so impossible to revive except that old feeling that what was once a commercial failure should be left dead for ever?

they got rid of it because it did not sell well
why would resurrecting it ( which will cost $$ )
make it sell any better, even if it is a small fortune / roll ?
people will hoard it like they do everything they think
will be discontinued ( look at the acros in peril thread )
then ... it will be discontinued again and won't be able to
be processed again ... people would have invested
a kings ransom on this film and be unable to have it processed
and be even more upset than usual. sounds like a nightmare
im really at a loss why people insist it is a good idea to reanimate a film
that didn't sell well, is a PITA to process &c
that can't be processed like everything else ...
just because "they can"
they can resurrect dinosaurs + chimera in a lab now
==
what they SHOULD do is start making a CHEEP regular ortho emulsion instead
just make miles of it and cut it and sell it as if it was 1917.
color is a distraction just like gear ...

 

[BrianShaw]

ummm wait, is this the deleated thread ?

It may as well be.

 

[BrianShaw]

they got rid of it because it did not sell well
why would resurrecting it ( which will cost $$ )
make it sell any better, even if it is a small fortune / roll ?
(Snippiti snip) ...

So how is the revived Ektachrome selling?

 

[RattyMouse]

PE seems to imply that processing Kodachrome is not an impossible task (and that even some people achieved it on their own). He also wrote in an old post that as far as he knew, the chemicals involved in coating Kodachrome were not worse than current films made today. So what is truly the reason everybody seems to think it would be so impossible to revive except that old feeling that what was once a commercial failure should be left dead for ever?

Actually, the onus is on YOU or anyone else who thinks Kodachrome should be resurrected. It was clearly failing hard at the end of it's life. What makes you think today would be any different. The market has spoken. Clearly.

Folks here arent even certain that Ektachrome will be 100% successful with its comeback. Kodak promised to release this film last year, then pushed the release date back to 1st quarter 2018. That's passed too with no new release date in sight.

Further, Kodak announced a new Super 8 camera in 2016. That's STILL nowhere to be found, years later. Years!

What makes you think Kodak can execute on something so complex as Kodachrome? What possible evidence is there to support this?

 

[Photo Engineer]

I said that the chemicals were not worse, but the problem is getting them. They are hard to get and very expensive. Mixing the chemistry is difficult and the solutions are unstable! That needs a lot of throughput to turn the chemistry over with fresh replenishment.

As for "many" I was somewhat sarcastic there and had in my mind the proportion of supporters here on APUG(error intended). The 3 or so are what we know about here on APUG and does indeed comprise many when compared to how many people are "approving" of Kodachrome on this thread.

PE

 

[RattyMouse]

Kodachrome is such a waste.

 

[RattyMouse]

So how is the revived Ektachrome selling?

Well said.

 

[alanrockwood]

I am surprised that the mere discussion of a possible revival of Kodachrome is generating such heated emotions.

 

[removed account4]

So how is the revived Ektachrome selling?

not sure, is it even released yet ?
too bad they didn't make ektacrome a K14 process would have made it easier to revive kodachromme

What makes you think Kodak can execute on something so complex as Kodachrome?

im starting to think now,
if they do all the RD to make small batches and figure
out a way to deal with processing, after EVERY 0THER film DIES
they can swoop down, re-market kodachrome and be the LAST one standing.
by that time people will be jonsing for some film
and they will have a captive audience and a bunch of suckers to pay 500$/roll to
they justneed to sell a few rolls to make back their costs.
do some blair witch trial ad campaign or hire
our good friends in nigeria or the far east to do a mass email spam thing
the campaign can last a few months ramp it up, and just release the hounds !

last one standing, might be a good thing.

 

[RattyMouse]

I am surprised that the mere discussion of a possible revival of Kodachrome is generating such heated emotions.

Brazen ignorance has that effect on some.

 

[Lionel1972]

Brazen ignorance has that effect on some.

I’m sorry to let you know that the ignorance is just as much on your side than mine as you have no way to know how well would Kodachrome sell if it were revived today. Based on your reasoning since vinyl discs sold miserably « at the end of their life » when CD took over, then there were no chance at all it would be sold all over again today. We both know it is unrealistic to apply that reasoning as a ganeral rule with no exception.

 

[Photo Engineer]

Kodak did execute something as complicated as Kodachrome. Double entendre there!

PE