KA: Kodachrome "just not practical to try to replicate in today's market."

[foc]

Now the movie ! ! !

 

[vsyrek1945]

Apparently this concludes their investigation of "what it would take to bring it back" from last year. Hopefully it's the last word on the subject for a while.

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That was post #1. . .

Don't count on it. Kodachrome revivalist posts/threads will continue here as long as PHOTRIO exists. After that, they'll show up elsewhere.

.. and post 2. . .

. . . yet some 270-odd posts later, and some 7-plus yars after the funeral, the grieving over the dearly departed hasn't gotten past the anger and denial stages. Personally, I don't miss KII - got satisfying results with Ektachrome underexposed 1/3 stop an 2/3 the cost in the '70s, and later got impressed with the impressive reds of Fuji RD100 similarly shot at 125, at even lower cost.

I was convinced even 45 years ago, that EKC was trading on its reputation and overcharging for a product not appreciably better than its competitor's.

Just my $0.02 . . .

Regards,
Vince

 

[Lionel1972]

Again here, the point is not weather or not Kodachrome was better nor it is weather or not it got outsold by cheaper processing and faster turn around. If those were acceptable arguments for deciding if it should be on the market today, then not a single film should be produced today as we should all get over analog photography and be happy with digital by now.
If people can’t get over Kodachrome it should hint everyone that there is some interest for it today. Else why not look at the catastrophic sale figures of film photography from when people switched to digital to decide that film photography is dead and we should get over it. Oops now I see how Fujifilm execs are still thinking...

 

[Rhodes]

Now the movie ! ! !

It was filmed in Kodachrome, right?

 

[E. von Hoegh]

Again here, the point is not weather or not Kodachrome was better nor it is weather or not it got outsold by cheaper processing and faster turn around. If those were acceptable arguments for deciding if it should be on the market today, then not a single film should be produced today as we should all get over analog photography and be happy with digital by now.
If people can’t get over Kodachrome it should hint everyone that there is some interest for it today. Else why not look at the catastrophic sale figures of film photography from when people switched to digital to decide that film photography is dead and we should get over it. Oops now I see how Fujifilm execs are still thinking...

Interest today? Obviously there is.
Unfortunately, Kodachrome is gone. Parts of this thread put me in mind of a yardful of preschoolers, running around and whining "but I wannit I wannit I wannit!" Very tiresome.

 

[Lionel1972]

Interest today? Obviously there is.
Unfortunately, Kodachrome is gone. Parts of this thread put me in mind of a yardful of preschoolers, running around and whining "but I wannit I wannit I wannit!" Very tiresome.

So you mean all those whining people who complained when Velvia was first killed off, those who whined about the death of Polaroid film and those who kept asking Kodak to bring back Ektachrome should have gotten over it and moved on in order for you not to feel tired of hearing them? How about those childish folks who keep insisting in still using film and keep on filling whole online forums about it?

 

[E. von Hoegh]

So you mean all those whining people who complained when Velvia was first killed off, those who whined about the death of Polaroid film and those who kept asking Kodak to bring back Ektachrome should have gotten over it and moved on in order for you not to feel tired of hearing them? How about those childish folks who keep insisting in still using film and keep on filling whole online forums about it?

Sounds like you need some warm milk and a nap.

 

[Lionel1972]

Now I’m just waiting to read the same condescending comments about those whining over the loss of Kodachrome applied to the people whining about Fujifilm taking their beloved Acros away.

 

[removed account4]

So you mean all those whining people who complained when Velvia was first killed off, those who whined about the death of Polaroid film and those who kept asking Kodak to bring back Ektachrome should have gotten over it and moved on in order for you not to feel tired of hearing them? How about those childish folks who keep insisting in still using film and keep on filling whole online forums about it?

hi lionel
people did complain about polaroid and velveeta and plus x and old tmy(1) and lots of other stuff,
but they have stopped, and now, every 2 months there is another thread that pops up like this one,
where people insist droves would pay 50-300$/roll of film and a company barely out of bankrupcy should
jump in head first into a hairbrained project that a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of current film
users would even be interested in.
sure they brought back ektachrome, and a 1000$ super 8 camera. as far as i know ektachrome
can still be processed in labs whether it is cine film or still film.

its too bad people can't just accept that kodachrome won't be made again, its been 8+ years.
its like people complaining that the beloved tv show "holmes and yo yo" isn't on TV anymore
or the "beverly hillbillies" ... if they do bring back kodachrome it will be jumping the shark

 

[Lionel1972]

Hi Jnanian,
You mean it would be as unsuccessful as the return of Twin Peaks and Roseanne on TV? Hmm... then maybe we have a different definition of success.

 

[removed account4]

twin peaks and rosanne are completely different and in no way related to holmes and yo yo and the beverly hillbillies ..
i specifically used those 2 because they are like kodachrome ... a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of the whole
and to re-boot them would cost millions of dollars for a flop..

 

[Lionel1972]

I agree it would cost millions of dollards, but I don’t agree that it would a flop. Roseanne got cancelled back in the day mostly for the same reasons Kodachrome got cancelled ie not enough profit could be made from it at that point in time, but it doesn’t mean Roseanne cannot be successful now nor can you state a priori that a return of Kodachrome would be a flop.

 

[removed account4]

i think the show's appeal will wear off soon and drop down to a barely making profit mode, unless they have someone on vacation from america's
favorite news source on there .. if that show fails, its just another failed show, if KC fails, and K put all their $$$$ in it, the company will go belly up ( again ) ...

 

[E. von Hoegh]

Hi Jnanian,
You mean it would be as unsuccessful as the return of Twin Peaks and Roseanne on TV? Hmm... then maybe we have a different definition of success.

Your comparison is utterly specious.

 

[Photo Engineer]

I agree it would cost millions of dollards, but I don’t agree that it would a flop. Roseanne got cancelled back in the day mostly for the same reasons Kodachrome got cancelled ie not enough profit could be made from it at that point in time, but it doesn’t mean Roseanne cannot be successful now nor can you state a priori that a return of Kodachrome would be a flop.

We can rebuild the plant at Chalon and make all of these revived films there. Right?

PE

 

[Sirius Glass]

We can rebuild the plant at Chalon and make all of these revived films there. Right?

PE

Yes and they will change my birth year by adding fifty years to my birth certificate and that will cause all the ramifications to my age and health because then I would be fifty years younger.

 

[jtk]

Yes and they will change my birth year by adding fifty years to my birth certificate and that will cause all the ramifications to my age and health because then I would be fifty years younger.

Chalon is in France, right? Isn't that where Roseanne was unearthed ? QED

 

[Lionel1972]

We can rebuild the plant at Chalon and make all of these revived films there. Right?

PE

I wish! Haha! By the way, do you know that some original Colorama negs ended up at this Chalon-sur-Saône plant which finally donated them to the Nicéphore Niépce museum there? And actually I do think that Kodak would be quite succesful if they would come up with a « Kodak Klassics » line of film revived from their illustrious catalog.

 

[Theo Sulphate]

My great Quest will be to convince the Chinese to manufacture and K-14 process the old Kodachrome. Only they can do it inexpensively.

Its rebirth, even if not greeted warmly in the U.S., will be celebrated throughout Asia.

 

[Photo Engineer]

All we have to do is send our film to China for processing. There will be a tariff on it.

Chalon is a beautiful place, but I seem to only have gotten there in winter or late fall.

PE

PS, some of my family is from Chalon sur Marne.

 

[E. von Hoegh]

Chalon is in France, right? Isn't that where Roseanne was unearthed ? QED

Chalon sur Saône was somehow connected with the Templars iirc which explains everything.
Roseanne would better have been left earthed...

 

[Theo Sulphate]

All we have to do is send our film to China for processing. There will be a tariff on it.
...

Millions of Chinese and others in the region will discover the film's beauty. No tariff for them.

 

[RattyMouse]

All we have to do is send our film to China for processing. There will be a tariff on it.

The best photo processing lab I've used in the past 6 years was in China. I luckily stumbled into a lab in Shanghai that was run by THE most courteous people with a palpable passion for quality. I miss that lab dearly. I have yet to find a lab that I am happy with here in the US. I've got a stock pile of C41 and E6 films shot now 2 years and running. Every lab I have tried has scratched the negatives horribly. I may take my exposed film back to China the next time I go back there and get it processed there.

 

[shuttlelaunchfilm]

My great Quest will be to convince the Chinese to manufacture and K-14 process the old Kodachrome. Only they can do it inexpensively.

Its rebirth, even if not greeted warmly in the U.S., will be celebrated throughout Asia.

You might be more right than you know. I've been working very closely with the folks working on reviving Kodachrome. I would certainly NOT say its dead. It will live again- and Chinese chemistry just might be the last leg to cross the line.

 

[shuttlelaunchfilm]

It never ends

It never ends for a reason.

Kodachrome is possible. There's guys with great leads on chemistry who are only a few steps away. There is another K-Lab, its in great shape.

Its pretty disheartening to see folks who don't have their finger on the pulse of this, who are definitive in making statements about how dead, impossible and pointless Kodachrome is, because it doesn't reflect the reality.

I'd even venture to say, with support, rather than condescension, Kodachrome would likely return faster. Folks working on this are human too, and loud voices making crap out Kodachrome have an effect.