Just Cancelled Photoshop

[Pieter12]

The legacy Adobe products won't run on Apple's latest systems. You're stuck with a cloud subscription. One solution is to have an older boot volume, but that can be a pain having to reboot whenever you want to use the older software.

 

[grat]

For the OP: Here's a thread that may help, if you still want to use PhotoShop:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/down...time-i-open-an-adobe-cc-product/td-p/11105195

Personally... I've been happy since I switched to Affinity Photo-- runs on Windows and Mac, is currently half-off, and has a 14 day refund window.

 

[Mal Paso]

For the OP: Here's a thread that may help, if you still want to use PhotoShop:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/down...time-i-open-an-adobe-cc-product/td-p/11105195

Personally... I've been happy since I switched to Affinity Photo-- runs on Windows and Mac, is currently half-off, and has a 14 day refund window.

Thank You! I read the adobe solutions for windows and it is more work with uncertain results, I have spent more than enough time. I have a real problem with software that can bar your use with no warning. Adobe, You're Fired!

I am purchasing Affinity right now. Photoshop ends tomorrow.

Got an email this morning. All my ranting got me a higher rank in the adobe community. LOL

Thanks again!

 

[RalphLambrecht]

I believe the subscription model came as a result of widespread bootlegging and stolen software. These are very powerful, sophisticated and complex programs that took time to develop and continue to improve. Adobe does deserve to make money from it. Not that long ago, it took a $150,000 (1980's dollars, too!) computer system in a climate-controlled room, with dedicated software to do 1/10 of what Photoshop can do today on your desktop.

+1.the subscription model works well for me.

 

[Mal Paso]

I bought and downloaded Affinity today. It looks like it will do what I need. I didn't bother with the trial offer. I'm going to spread the adobe money around. I'm thinking it's partly my fault for supporting a single company all this time. A humble company would have allowed me to complete my work and register in a time frame. Shutting me off from a program I Paid For is unacceptable.

I also downloaded DxO but found it will only run on win8 or later, I'm still running win7. I have run win10 and will switch to Mac before win10 again.

The new Nikon Studio is also Win 8 or later for those interested. It's a free download.

 

[DMJ]

I bought and downloaded Affinity today. It looks like it will do what I need. I didn't bother with the trial offer. I'm going to spread the adobe money around. I'm thinking it's partly my fault for supporting a single company all this time. A humble company would have allowed me to complete my work and register in a time frame. Shutting me off from a program I Paid For is unacceptable.

I also downloaded DxO but found it will only run on win8 or later, I'm still running win7. I have run win10 and will switch to Mac before win10 again.

The new Nikon Studio is also Win 8 or later for those interested. It's a free download.

I subscribe to the Adobe Creative Cloud and use Camera Raw and Photoshop, never really liked Lightroom. But I find myself using Affinity Photo most of the time. I also own Luminar 4 but it is slow and full of bugs. I think Affinity Photo is a great software and reasonably priced, and the best thing is you buy it and its yours, no internet connection required. They also published a book with examples of different workflows which is great.

 

[removed account4]

My parents are wealthy. A few years ago, they bought me a $50,000 Cadillac because my mother was in an emotional tizzy about the Ford I drove. It was starting to rust a little, and she was afraid that people would think that I (and by extension, her) was 'trailer trash.' Every time I visited them, she'd bitch about my car and demand that I go buy a new one. I couldn't afford to do that; I was a single father putting my son (his mother chose not to be in his life) through college after suffering a stroke at 37 that forced me to stop working as a high school teacher. I made enough from my photography to get by, but barely. Finally my father shows up at my door one morning and tells me he is buying me a new car because my mother won't stop hounding HIM about MY car. I suggested that he stand up to his wife, which he didn't have the backbone to do. So, I told him that since they were afraid of people thinking our family was whitetrash, only a Cadillac CTS would do. He bought one for me. He paid cash for it.

Anyone that wastes money like that deserves no sympathy from me or anyone else.

You didn’t trade it in for some thing that cost less to fix and whose local tax ( car tax is what they do here ) Isn’t be through the roof... can’t imagine affording a guzzler that is $$$ to maintain and pay taxes on...( seeing the back story you just wrote )
Should have asked for a electric Porsche bmw or Tesla

 

[chriscrawfordphoto]

You didn’t trade it in for some thing that cost less to fix and whose local tax ( car tax is what they do here ) Isn’t be through the roof... can’t imagine affording a guzzler that is $$$ to maintain and pay taxes on...( seeing the back story you just wrote )
Should have asked for a electric Porsche bmw or Tesla

There are no local car taxes where I live, and the Cadillac is not a gas guzzler. It has a V6, so it gets decent mileage. The Crown Victoria, which was a much larger car with a V8 engine was a gas guzzler! Cadillacs are actually pretty cheap to maintain; parts for GM cars are not expensive, and I can repair the car myself. Teslas, BMWs, and Porsches are very expensive to repair, and electric cars are not user-fixable which raises repair costs even higher.

 

[removed account4]

cheap repairs, good gas mileage ?
nsurance companies love luxury cars ... must be $$
you can repair the car yourself ? that's great! for years
I had read in your posts and blog &c that you were somehow
incapacitated ( or someone you are connected with is )
and living on a small income, at least now
with a luxury car when the time comes you can sell it for the big bucks

 

[chriscrawfordphoto]

cheap repairs, good gas mileage ?
nsurance companies love luxury cars ... must be $$
you can repair the car yourself ? that's great! for years
I had read in your posts and blog &c that you were somehow
incapacitated ( or someone you are connected with is )
and living on a small income.

I suffered a stroke several years ago, which forced me to stop teaching. I lived on very little after that, and ended up having to sell most of my photo gear to help my son get through college because I did not want him working while he was in school. I raised him alone, with no help from his mother who chose not to be part of his life at all. My son, who is now 24, helps me do things that require more strength than I have; like repairing my car. He is making nearly $100,000 a year as a software engineer, something made possible because I put him through school. He has made it clear to me that I am never going to worry about money again for the rest of my life. Satisfied?

 

[removed account4]

Satisfied

wasn’t dissatisfied.. best of luck with stuff, ‘specialy the cr8zey computer stuff they put in cars now. I stopped working on mine in 88 when computers started taking over. Good thing your son is a softwares engineer, Probs helps heaps with the horseless carriage seeing it’s all computer run...

 

[grat]

At least changing the headlights on a CTS no longer requires removing the front bumper.

 

[MattKing]

At least changing the headlights on a CTS no longer requires removing the front bumper.

To change the headlights on our PT Cruiser the car needs to be raised up enough to permit accessing the rear of the headlights through an access panel near the top of the wheel wells. You really need a hoist to do it easily.

 

[removed account4]

At least changing the headlights on a CTS no longer requires removing the front bumper.

You really need a hoist to do it easily

Exactly !
I gave up years ago doing anything but changing stuff easily accessible like light bulbs
maybe rear tail light assemblies, and sun visors .. rubbish left in the car and you know, crumbs
companies have become very aggressive at making things impossible for any home mechanic to fix...

 

[grat]

I can replace all the front lights on my Volvo with no tools-- but a screwdriver does make it easier to pop the retaining latch.

Even so, in general the car's complicated enough I take it to a local shop for service. It's a far cry from my old MGB GT with a single transistor in the entire wiring diagram.

 

[removed account4]

I can replace all the front lights on my Volvo with no tools-- but a screwdriver does make it easier to pop the retaining latch.

Even so, in general the car's complicated enough I take it to a local shop for service. It's a far cry from my old MGB GT with a single transistor in the entire wiring diagram.

yeah
my fave is getting juice to the "sankyo" am fm / tape deck radio by wrapping the hot wire around a fuse.. good times

 

[Patrick Robert James]

Does anyone know if older programs can be run through the new Rosetta on M1 Macs?

 

[Robert Maxey]

There is always GIMP and Lightroom.

I like GIMP, too. And Inkscape for the rest. Corel makes a few good products and I am fine with no Photoshop. I for one refuse to subscribe. I might consider PS if it were not a subscription service. I still have my disks, somewhere.

I guess try a few programs and see what works best.

Bob

 

[Mainecoonmaniac]

I’d avoid subscriptions and go for a perpetual license software which Adobe does not offer. Here’s Affinity Photo. Will work on Mac OS and Windows.
https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/photo/full-feature-list/

 

[wiltw]

Why lower prices for retirees? What difference does it make whether the product is used for business? And where does the forcing and extortion come into play?

What if the product saved you a hour each month? Can you earn that $10 back with your extra hour?

If a professional (graphic artist or photographer) earned $50k-$80k from the use of the Adobe software, I think it is appropriate that the income was offset by $1200 software expense, annually...as little as 2.4% of income, with that example.
If a retired person gets no income but merely pleasure of photography as a pastime, for $0 income $120 per year is (relative to the professional's fee) reasonable.
One example of price- to-value obtained.
Today, both pay $120 end of sentence.
When you are on Social Security with zero employer pension benefit, and you have only $60k in a self-funded IRA (what the average per has), you will understand. Access to the RAW images you took during working years, of your kids and their kids, gone because you did not pay every month.

 

[removed account4]

I’d avoid subscriptions and go for a perpetual license software which Adobe does not offer. Here’s Affinity Photo. Will work on Mac OS and Windows.
https://affinity.serif.com/en-us/photo/full-feature-list/

a couple of hundred dollars a year for the programs ( book designing software and photoshop included in same package )
it is well worth the $$ I spent. I had a horrific experience with Affinity. No customer service, no help, just angry harsh mean people at their 800#.
10 day trial wasn't much of a trial since the program didn't work and my questions to the "community help page" were "stuck in the pipe" for 8 of the 10 days
and never answered. even though PS is way more expensive, at least you get help from people who know the program, who are polite, and want to help you, my experience was pretty much the opposite at Affinity...

 

[faberryman]

So much whining. You’d think this was a thread about Leica prices.

 

[faberryman]

When you are on Social Security with zero employer pension benefit, and you have only $60k in a self-funded IRA (what the average per has), you will understand. Access to the RAW images you took during working years, of your kids and their kids, gone because you did not pay every month.

I thought Adobe had a free program to convert RAW files to DNG.

 

[plummerl]

I thought Adobe had a free program to convert RAW files to DNG.

They absolutely do: https://helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/using/adobe-dng-converter.html

 

[DMJ]

I cannot say anything bad about Affinity and I also bought their Designer and Publisher. I never had to contact them or needed assistance so I don't know anything about their customer service; that is an area where many companies need to improve. I am also lucky to have access to the Adobe Creative Cloud for free and the combination of Adobe Camera Raw and Photoshop is hard to beat. Most schools and the industry use Adobe (and Avid) products so as long as that ties exist, these companies are not going to change their subscription models.