Is it for certain that the CatLabs X-80 is actually the same emulsion as Shanhai GP3 and not a different emulsion made to CatLabs spec and coated by the Shanghai ?I have a question for all those involved in this thread. Has anyone here bought Shanghai GP3 from eBay instead of CatLabs? The reason I ask is I'm wondering if CatLabs might have made a sweet deal on the remaining stock that was on hand when the factory shut down for rebuilding or whatever. Maybe the eBay sellers are getting an upgraded film in the way of backing paper and tape??? I don't know and that's why I ask if there is a difference between CatLabs stock and eBay sellers stock. Just curious?? JohnW
I don't know the answer to that, but I would hope it's the same. The last pre-factory close down GP3 film I bought I had zero complaints about the emulsion. I would rate it better than Foma 100 since I had some strange results with that. Also, rating GP3 iat ISO 50 or 80 is what worked better for me. So, I'd say it's the same. Now the tape and backing paper is another story altogether.............Is it for certain that the CatLabs X-80 is actually the same emulsion as Shanhai GP3 and not a different emulsion made to CatLabs spec and coated by the Shanghai ?
Is it for certain that the CatLabs X-80 is actually the same emulsion as Shanhai GP3 and not a different emulsion made to CatLabs spec and coated by the Shanghai ?
See post #51, it has the same curve shape. It might be useful to look at the grain structure of the two as well as if they both dry the same way.
For me personally, I don’t care one way or the other. If it really is GP3, then catLABS is supporting film and giving others an opportunity to help support them by buying it. It’s no different than what freestyle is doing with their Arista.EDU line (which is fins film), what you also see with Holga film (which is also Foma film). If you don’t want to support an outfit or company, then don’t buy it, otherwise do your part to support them.
It's not important for me either way as well, I'm happy on both sides. I do hope that it is a different emulsion, it opens up possibilities for others to have custom emulsions coated by existing vendors.See post #51, it has the same curve shape. It might be useful to look at the grain structure of the two as well as if they both dry the same way.
For me personally, I don’t care one way or the other. If it really is GP3, then catLABS is supporting film and giving others an opportunity to help support them by buying it. It’s no different than what freestyle is doing with their Arista.EDU line (which is foma film), what you also see with Holga film (which is also Foma film). If you don’t want to support an outfit or company, then don’t buy it, otherwise do your part to support them.
I want to support them, but my Mamiya RB67 doesn't want to... so I'll buy sheet film, if the price is right up here in Canada. My Canham will eat it up!
It's not important for me either way as well, I'm happy on both sides. I do hope that it is a different emulsion, it opens up possibilities for others to have custom emulsions coated by existing vendors.
For me personally, I don’t care one way or the other. If it really is GP3, then catLABS is supporting film and giving others an opportunity to help support them by buying it. It’s no different than what freestyle is doing with their Arista.EDU line (which is foma film), what you also see with Holga film (which is also Foma film). If you don’t want to support an outfit or company, then don’t buy it, otherwise do your part to support them.
Inever used Foma 100 in roll format but I have in sheet film. it's really a sleeper great film. learn ow to develop it properly and it will surprise youI don't know the answer to that, but I would hope it's the same. The last pre-factory close down GP3 film I bought I had zero complaints about the emulsion. I would rate it better than Foma 100 since I had some strange results with that. Also, rating GP3 iat ISO 50 or 80 is what worked better for me. So, I'd say it's the same. Now the tape and backing paper is another story altogether.............
You can make any film work but I chose to support those companies who have supported us in the long term.
why risk your time with questionable roll film when we certainly have some amazing films available...
Inever used Foma 100 in roll format but I have in sheet film. it's really a sleeper great film. learn ow to develop it properly and it will surprise you
no sense to dismiss Foma as they make some truly wonderful products
Looks like a great art installation.I compared the backing paper of four films and found CatLatbs used the least amount of tape. Plus the Foma and CatLabs tape was thinner than on the Bergger and Ilford film. That being said, I've never had any trouble with Foma or CatLabs film. I use RB67, Bronica SQ-B and Mamiya 645 cameras.
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I compared the backing paper of four films and found CatLatbs used the least amount of tape. Plus the Foma and CatLabs tape was thinner than on the Bergger and Ilford film. That being said, I've never had any trouble with Foma or CatLabs film. I use RB67, Bronica SQ-B and Mamiya 645 cameras.
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Just shot and processed my third roll of CATlabs 80 120 film. I like the look, the base is very clear--not sure what the material is (mylar?), it is certainly not the same as Kodak or Ilford. There is hardly any curl from being rolled up, and it makes it a bit difficult to load on the developing reel--other films stay rolled up when removed from the spool, the CATlabs sort of relaxes and can't be easily gathered in your hand. Which for me means the film can possibly touch the table or floor and pick up some dust while loading. Also, this last roll was on the short side. The last frame ended up right at the end of the film. I have never experienced that with other brands.
Interesting you say that Matt-I've put several rolls through my Rolleicord with no problems and the negs developed in ID 11 1+1 look great. Anyway you'll be seeing some of the results in a future postcard exchange.The film would probably be trouble free in most folders or Mamiya C series TLRS - anything with a really straight film path.
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