well, they never kicked me out, i kicked myself out after a mod altered my (very civil) post a while ago due to an innocuous difference in personal opinion. i'm glad to see i'm not alone
yay for apug!
... probably due to some fairly harsh editting by the mods
...they haven't kicked me off of RFF haha guess I'm not so bad
That place has taken on a carniverous feel I'm afraid to report.
What an utter load of absolute tosh - and we wonder why so many women have image issues.
Since this thread has gone so far off track anyway, I might as well chip in a female opinion on this one. Image issues have way more causes than someone thinking that most larger people are the ones who don't want to be photographed. Try having models like those in the heroin-chic years (like Kate Moss in her early years), but the food pushed at us is more fat than food. There is a major obesity epidemic and yet there's a fight about too-thin models at the same time. How could this not cause many insecure women (and men) to not have a clue how to feel about their bodies. In the USA, women are frequently told to cover their boobs and not breastfeed in public (one of the most normal acts in the history of humans - duh, we're MAMMALS), yet there are ads for Abercrombie, etc.. with barely clad teenagers. There is such a disparity of how the body is presented in advertising and news that it's almost amazing that there are some people with a healthy attitude towards their bodies.
For what it's worth, I know very few people of any size who like to be photographed. There is a ring of truth to what Stone said and also an immaturity in how he said it. Maturity isn't just thinking a certain accepted way, it's really just acting like that's how you think.
Since this thread has gone so far off track anyway, I might as well chip in a female opinion on this one. Image issues have way more causes than someone thinking that most larger people are the ones who don't want to be photographed. Try having models like those in the heroin-chic years (like Kate Moss in her early years), but the food pushed at us is more fat than food. There is a major obesity epidemic and yet there's a fight about too-thin models at the same time. How could this not cause many insecure women (and men) to not have a clue how to feel about their bodies. In the USA, women are frequently told to cover their boobs and not breastfeed in public (one of the most normal acts in the history of humans - duh, we're MAMMALS), yet there are ads for Abercrombie, etc.. with barely clad teenagers. There is such a disparity of how the body is presented in advertising and news that it's almost amazing that there are some people with a healthy attitude towards their bodies.
For what it's worth, I know very few people of any size who like to be photographed. There is a ring of truth to what Stone said and also an immaturity in how he said it. Maturity isn't just thinking a certain accepted way, it's really just acting like that's how you think.
Don't people have their own minds anymore?
"Maturity is acting like that's how you think." Stone must be mature then?
I quite agree, though surely the onus is on the individual to think "I'm happy/not happy as I am," and not rely on the opinions of others or media opinion etc . . .?
Don't people have their own minds anymore?
"Maturity is acting like that's how you think." Stone must be mature then?
I totally agree about the breastfeeding comment, it really saddens me that mothers feel so much pressure from society to hide such a healthy and natural thing. I'm working with another photographer on a normalizing breastfeeding campaign. But it's in it's infant stage (no pun intended).
And yes I'm immature in my comments I'm sure there are certainly better ways to say things than I do. I just don't have much of a filter. I think if you all met me in person you'd see how my real personality and inflection in speech would change how I sound and I wouldn't seem like such a jerk.
~Stone | Sent w/ iPhone using Tapatalk
Maturity is acting like you think the "accepted" way when you really don't.Not sure all here have made it to that definition.
And I'm not too sure many people do have their own minds anymore. Since all of it is so pervasive, it's easy for it to edge its way into your thinking, even if you do usually think for yourself. I keep complaining about the couple of pounds I've gained in the last few years 'cause I think my belly looks fat and blobby. Yes, literally a couple of pounds. And I know it's somewhat ridiculous, but it still bothers me.
Too bad you're starting the project now - I finally completely weaned my little guy (yes, folks, he's 3 - normal weaning age should be 3-4, not 1). He got nursed in public in so many places I lost track. Don't let me go off on this topic.
If you need help finding models, check with the LaLeche League or some attachment parenting groups in your area.
There's nothing wrong with a little belly on a woman, but that's probably just me?
Poor boy...
In her 2012 TED talk, Cameron Russell (one of the most fabulously beautiful women on earth) said:
"The thing we will never say on camera, that I have never said on camera is that I am insecure. And I am insecure because I have to think about what I look like every day. If you're ever wondering if I have thinner thighs and shinier hair, will I be happier, you just need to meet a group of models because they have the thinnest thighs and the shiniest hair and the coolest clothes and they are the most physically insecure women, probably, on the planet".
In its entirety:
http://www.ted.com/talks/cameron_russell_looks_aren_t_everything_believe_me_i_m_a_model.html
I'm insecure about those extra 40 pounds!
That's our Stone. One day he will mature.
And here I was thinking your posts couldn't get any more sophomoric.
It means it is correct in those instances.Just because you may have noticed certain behaviour in however many instances, doesn't mean it is correct.
Goes to show, people see what they want to see. Stone can tell you that I have gotten after him once or twice for something he said.Now his friends are scrambling to redeem his honour and to dignify his comments.
There is a ring of truth to what Stone said and also an immaturity in how he said it.
And let photography itself from past eras lend testimony that people in general have become slovenly in attire and appearance in latter years. As for me, I never cared for photographing nudity, never sought the opportunity to do it, and wouldn't if I could. The only bone I might pick with Stone would be the photography of tattoos. A girl with a tattoo is the best cure for a Viagra overdose that I can think of.
Instead of retorting, would it not have been better to show a level of humility - heck, even say "I'm Sorry"......
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