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And we can keep it polite and - if need be - restricted to the soapbox.
+1I would NOT like to see all discussions centered around politics and religion banned from APUG. From what I've seen on other forums this kind of ban is a very slippery slope.
Thanks
+1Any reasonable person knows what an attack, or snarky comment, is. There is no need to be guarded about what you post unless you are the type of person who offends.
As far as thee Soap Box is concerned my impression is that it was designed as a no holds barred forum. If I understand British law one stands on a box so that technically they are no longer standing on British soil. Under this condition one can say anything they want provided the do not criticize the monarch.
There is a built in "warning" system that does this, however, I have a few new tools being built that will run behind the scenes. For example, one tool will tell us who is being "ignored" the most, and another tells us who is getting the most reported posts. I also have a new ignore system going in later today which will be a huge step up in how members can control their own content. I'll be posting a poll regarding this soon.Sean, have you considered an automated demerit system, such that after a certain level of demerits is attained by an offending poster there would be an automated warning "shot across the bow", followed by an automated ban if not heeded. Just another code change that would require only minimal if any supervision on your part. Good idea? Or not?
You would definitely know, we open a dialogue in private with members who may be causing issues. We try to work things out that way first.Can ask everyone to approve or disapprove of me. Maybe I'm the problem and just don't know it. and THat's the truth Ruth!! I do not know if I'm good or bad? how would one determine or know if he or she is the problem? would someone let me know if I get put on the short list? for real. . .. . I'm very sincere about this!!! as real as real gets.
How do I opt-out of the Soap Box?
Go into the group and there should be a button on the main page "Leave This Group", click that and it's gone..How do I opt-out of the Soap Box?
Sean, have you considered an automated demerit system, such that after a certain level of demerits is attained by an offending poster there would be an automated warning "shot across the bow", followed by an automated ban if not heeded. ....
Not likely in the least!!!!!!Am I the most ignored? I think I am. How to find out?
I would NOT like to see all discussions centered around politics and religion banned from APUG. From what I've seen on other forums this kind of ban is a very slippery slope.
Thanks
Am I the most ignored? I think I am. How to find out?
For whatever reason, if you don't like a topic someone has posted then simply leave it be and move on. There are plenty who are perfectly happy to engage in a friendly and constructive manner
I somewhat see it as Seekers, Givers and Agitated Givers. The Agitated Givers seem to be a new trend, an extremely tiny yet vocal minority. In a thread of 50 replies, it only takes one or two "Agitated Givers" to sour the entire thread. I prefer those with a wealth of knowledge to remain but make a conscious decision to stay out of threads which seem to agitate them so much, rather than enter the thread and harass the thread creator. This is the definition of "bad behaviour". As mentioned, others are perfectly happy to help the newbies (100's in fact), link the newbies to data or take on these repetitive questions, so why not leave them to it, ignore those threads and move on to more intermediate and advanced topics?But, I do want to warn that the "Report Post" button used too often will result in a happy, carefree yet clueless community because the happy TAKERS will have finally "shot the knowledgable GIVER messengers" - it is they who are more likely walk away from APUG to the loss of the film photography community as a whole.
I really do think you shot yourself in the foot with this as an opening statement.. This community comprises broadly 2 distinct user groups - THE GIVERS and THE TAKERS...
If you haven't already, do please read the complete thread that triggered Sean's post - it can be found here:
(there was a url link here which no longer exists)
No need to feel ouched, I had no idea if you had read it, hence my "if you haven't already ..."Ouch!
Hi All,
I feel this is getting a bit out of hand and we need your help to identify and reduce this behavior. Everyone is free to post topics on APUG, even resurrect old threads if they see fit. There has been some curmudgeon like activity lately in many threads, where the thread creators are practically bullied off of the site. This is unacceptable and I urge everyone to report this activity to us whenever they see it. With your help, we can work to set this straight. I and many others do NOT like what we've seen lately and will go after this the best we can.
For whatever reason, if you don't like a topic someone has posted then simply leave it be and move on. There are plenty who are perfectly happy to engage in a friendly and constructive manner.
To report content, look to the bottom of every post and you'll see a "Report this post" button.
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Many of you have already begun reporting this activity, we appreciate it.
Thanks,
Sean
Sean, I believe you've erred by embroiling yourself in an issue so small yet one which has such wide ramifications. This community comprises broadly 2 distinct user groups - THE GIVERS and THE TAKERS...
The GIVERS tend to be a much maligned group of highly experienced, well educated and practised film photographers who are commonly & disrespectfully referred to by the TAKERS as "grumpy old men" (not nIce - a description having distasteful connotations). Yet they, as a group, are unreservedly willing to share their knowledge with the TAKERS as evidenced by the thousands upon thousands of thread responses provided over time providing technical, constructive plus motivational support and/or advice to the TAKERS. It is understandable if at times the GIVERS become a little "ratty" having to keep on going over old ground because the TAKERS choose not to make reasonable self help efforts to persue the knowledge they seek! Notwithstanding, the GIVERS stand ready to educate the TAKERS, or in some cases the "Newbies", because it is not in their natures not to assist where possible...
On the other hand, it now is made to appear that the TAKERS i.e. The beneficiaries of free education are now only willing to conditionally participate in their good fortune in a manner they find pleases THEM. They worry about HOW the message is received rather than WHAT the content is. They complain about TONE, perceived RUDENESS and imagined outright HOSTILITY toward them. All to a decision point of walking away from APUG! What happened to their urgent desire to TAKE away the knowledge they want?
I believe the conversations within this community must of necessity be robust, frank exchanges delivered in a straight foward and forthright manner. Those sensitive TAKER souls participating here must, in their own interests, learn to distill the information provided without shooting the messenger and to give as good as they get during any conversation - after all, the GIVERS know the answer while the TAKER does not!
Note, none of what I have said excuses bad behaviour of any kind...
But, I do want to warn that the "Report Post" button used too often will result in a happy, carefree yet clueless community because the happy TAKERS will have finally "shot the knowledgable GIVER messengers" - it is they who are more likely walk away from APUG to the loss of the film photography community as a whole.
I wonder if a technical solution can be implemented to help this situation somewhat, namely by linking to a search function within the forum right after one enters the title of a new thread (a key word feature can be added as well) so before posting a question there is an understanding the OP has done the expected homework. Based on my personal experience, I believe this will also allow one to ask more intelligent question as well.
Something like that is now in place. It's only been around for a few days, so it's still early. How well the search function works is occasionally an issue, too, so Sean tweaked that a bit as well.I wonder if a technical solution can be implemented to help this situation somewhat, namely by linking to a search function within the forum right after one enters the title of a new thread (a key word feature can be added as well) so before posting a question there is an understanding the OP has done the expected homework. Based on my personal experience, I believe this will allow one to ask more intelligent question as well.
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