I just want to fulfill a wish by some forum members and a moderator:
Here is the list of current repackaged (rebranded) Agfa Aviphot Pan 80 and 200 films and Kentmere 100 and 400 films:
Agfa Aviphot Pan 80:
Repackaged as Rollei Retro 80s and Rollei RPX 25.
Agfa Aviphot Pan 200:
Repackaged as Rollei Superpan 200, Rollei Retro 400s, Rollei Infrared 400, Silberra Pan 160 / Ultima 160, Silberra Pan 100 / Ultima 100, CatLabs 320 Pro and JCH Street Pan.
Kentmere 100 and 400:
Repackaged as AgfaPhoto APX 100 and 400, Rollei RPX 100 and 400, Fotoimpex CHM 100 and 400 (discontinued), Oriental 100 and 400.
Proven by countless experienced photographers who have tested these films in direct comparison (me included), and partly by the companies themselves (e.g Fotoimpex has been honest about their CHM films).
Do you have any of the actual test data that you've collected that you can post?
Do you have any of the actual test data that you've collected that you can post? I don't intent to doubt or say any of this isn't true, but the internet tends to be full of people who say things as if it's gospel without ever actually backing it up with actual data, so it's generally best to post what actual data has been collected along with how it was collected so others can look at it. Again, I'm not saying that's what you're doing here, and I realize you have good intentions, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who'd love to see some actual curves.
I just want to fulfill a wish by some forum members and a moderator:
Here is the list of current repackaged (rebranded) Agfa Aviphot Pan 80 and 200 films and Kentmere 100 and 400 films:
Agfa Aviphot Pan 80:
Repackaged as Rollei Retro 80s and Rollei RPX 25.
Agfa Aviphot Pan 200:
Repackaged as Rollei Superpan 200, Rollei Retro 400s, Rollei Infrared 400, Silberra Pan 160 / Ultima 160, Silberra Pan 100 / Ultima 100, CatLabs 320 Pro and JCH Street Pan.
Kentmere 100 and 400:
Repackaged as AgfaPhoto APX 100 and 400, Rollei RPX 100 and 400, Fotoimpex CHM 100 and 400 (discontinued), Oriental 100 and 400.
Proven by countless experienced photographers who have tested these films in direct comparison (me included), and partly by the companies themselves (e.g Fotoimpex has been honest about their CHM films).
On Friday I used my first roll of Rollei Superpan 200 in my Horseman VH, bought in place of Rollei IR 400 that I had been using successfully until recently. It felt very thin when winding-on, and did not trigger the frame-counting mechanism properly in the Horseman 120 film back. Now, the last stocks of IR 400 that I had were well out of date, from May 2013. Was the change in film or backing paper thickness something that also came in with the IR 400 material post-2013 , or not ?
Has anyone any idea where Astrum/Svema films come from? Are they too Aviphot?
Of course! No problem.
But I am currently on a travel, not at home (where I have my test results). As soon as I am back, I will put the collected results together in a spreadsheet and post here.
I am very very sorry for the delay! But when I came back from that travel a family member got extremely ill for months, and I had to care. My photography and all other similar activities had to be stopped.
That horrible situation has fortunately changed now, and I can start again with photography.
So back to topic:
Here just as one example the values for Agfa Aviphot Pan 200 = Rollei Superpan 200 = Rollei Retro 400S = Rollei Infrared = Silberra Pan 160 / Ultima 160 = Silberra Pan 100 / Ultima 100 = CatLabs 320 Pro and = JCH Street Pan.
I exposed all films completely identically with my F5 for a characteristic curve / HD curve test (at EI 40/17° for improved shadow detail). And developed them in the same tank with Ilford DD-X 1+4 with Ilford agitation of 10s per minute.
Measured with a Heiland TRD-2 densitometer. The logD values are:
Zone I: 0.07
Zone II: 0.22
Zone III: 0.42
Zone IV: 0.64
Zone V: 0.74
Zone VI: 0.94
Zone VII: 1.09
Zone VIII: 1.16
Zone IX: 1.22
Zone X: 1.27
The differences between the films have all been tiny and in the range of normal measuring / meterering variance. The Heiland densitometer has a variance of only 0.01 logD (one of the most precise densitometers in the market). And then you have tiny differences by the shutter (only really very slight as the F5 shutter has self-diagnostic and calibrating and is extremely precise).
So in total the variances between the films are only in the 0.01-0.02 range, which is not visible in the final picture at all. The curves are identical , sharpness/resolution and fineness of grain are identical, spectral sensitivity is identical = the films are identical.
thought they might be, but they are not. The emulsion is clearly different, nice blue instead of grey/brown. My guess is that they have some old rolls of Tasma stock.
Here’s an image showing the difference:
I just want to fulfill a wish by some forum members and a moderator:
Here is the list of current repackaged (rebranded) Agfa Aviphot Pan 80 and 200 films and Kentmere 100 and 400 films:
Agfa Aviphot Pan 80:
Repackaged as Rollei Retro 80s and Rollei RPX 25.
Agfa Aviphot Pan 200:
Repackaged as Rollei Superpan 200, Rollei Retro 400s, Rollei Infrared 400, Silberra Pan 160 / Ultima 160, Silberra Pan 100 / Ultima 100, CatLabs 320 Pro and JCH Street Pan.
Kentmere 100 and 400:
Repackaged as AgfaPhoto APX 100 and 400, Rollei RPX 100 and 400, Fotoimpex CHM 100 and 400 (discontinued), Oriental 100 and 400.
Proven by countless experienced photographers who have tested these films in direct comparison (me included), and partly by the companies themselves (e.g Fotoimpex has been honest about their CHM films).
Thanks. There had been a rumor that JCH Street Pan 400 was old stock Aviphot 400.
RPX25 was a lot of things.
That depends on when your always begins.
When it came out (around 2012 it was?) the entire series was another film.
So when Aviphot 200 stock is used up, no more Rollei Superpan 200, Rollei Retro 400s, Rollei Infrared 400, Silberra Pan 160 / Ultima 160, Silberra Pan 100 / Ultima 100, CatLabs 320 Pro and JCH Street Pan?
What makes you think they are using up the stock? Agfa lists Aviphot Pan 200 as a current production film: https://www.agfa.com/specialty-products/solutions/aerial-photography/aviphot/
So when Aviphot 200 stock is used up, no more Rollei Superpan 200, Rollei Retro 400s, Rollei Infrared 400, Silberra Pan 160 / Ultima 160, Silberra Pan 100 / Ultima 100, CatLabs 320 Pro and JCH Street Pan?
That is why I posed it as a question, not a statement. If what you say is true, then that is good news. Thank you.
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