"Releasing" a new "batch", right?!
"Releasing" a new "batch", right?!Guess where I was when I read this?
I know, I'm curious too! Detractors of this project would point anything as an issue or a reason why not to "love" them. I'm trying to show them facts to shut 'em up!I'm curious: why would anyone care?
I have a question for Dave, How "legal" is to actually use such an old piece of machinery like the slitter you show in the recently released clip? Does it have all the required safety certification? I'm not trying to be funny about it, but people raised this issue on an italian forum and I would like to ensure them that everything is fine!
I know, I'm curious too! Detractors of this project would point anything as an issue or a reason why not to "love" them. I'm trying to show them facts to shut 'em up!
For example, they went on and on about how Ferrania was eventually going to sell defective film, all of that because none of them seemed to understand english well enough to have it clear in their minds that this wasn't gonna happen. Or even that none of the Ferrania staff have the Industrial knowledge to build such an industrial plant (of course without klnowing any of them) and, as you say, if it was them oh they would do it the right way, but for now, they rather sit in front of their computers while someone else is acutaly making new emulsions.
Thank you!PS: I've been stalking your flickr.com profile; very nice work!
I have a question for Dave, How "legal" is to actually use such an old piece of machinery like the slitter you show in the recently released clip? Does it have all the required safety certification? I'm not trying to be funny about it, but people raised this issue on an italian forum and I would like to ensure them that everything is fine!
I know, I'm curious too! Detractors of this project would point anything as an issue or a reason why not to "love" them. I'm trying to show them facts to shut 'em up!
For example, they went on and on about how Ferrania was eventually going to sell defective film, all of that because none of them seemed to understand english well enough to have it clear in their minds that this wasn't gonna happen. Or even that none of the Ferrania staff have the Industrial knowledge to build such an industrial plant (of course without klnowing any of them) and, as you say, if it was them oh they would do it the right way, but for now, they rather sit in front of their computers while someone else is acutaly making new emulsions.
I'm curious: why would anyone care?
This kind of rhetoric "Ferrania uses old and maybe unsecure equipment! Oh noes! (and then: if I was doing it everything would be different I tell you!)" always feels like that the people that perpetuate it have the hidden hope that the others will eventually fail.
When I was still living in Italy and working in a small lab safety was taken quite seriously. For example I could use the soldering iron only after taking a safety class on it (!!). In an industrial setting like Ferrania work safety will be probably very stringent. Dave noted that there are parts of the LRF that are accessible only to some people of the team: that is for safety purposes. The machines most probably can be only touched by the one or two people that are certified for it - others probably cannot even enter the room!
I sincerely don't get why people would even pose these kind of problem - if it was really a treat to safety they could risk having the factory shut down by just having published the video.
thank you very much for clarifying it, I much appreciate it! As more doubts rise, I'll report them to your attention in order to make mopre people understand the huge effort you're all doing at keeping film alive. If you need any help translating to italian I'm available for consulting!As we described in a past post on our site, we are a fully certified and legal manufacturing entity. As part of the process of obtaining this certification, our team spent many weeks earlier this year documenting all procedures to submit to the government, and of course signing very detailed contracts relating to their roles, the manufacturing environment, etc., as required by law.
What is truly puzzling is why anyone would think we would put any member of our team in danger. If anyone even gets sick - or worse, injured - it directly affects our ability to make film. One person out for even one day means a 17% staff reduction!
You have it better than most countries in New Zealand, even the United States.Italy is a real nanny state when it comes to health and safety, worse than what I thought, and i thought we had it bad here in New Zealand!
They said in their interview with Ted Forbes that it won't be the cheapest film on the market but it won't be the most expensive either. Roughly in line with normal market prices. Seemed like they were going to have a reasonable approach to their pricing. I'd imagine add a few bucks on top of whatever your average black and white film costs.I don't know if this has been covered yet. Has there been a projection about pricing of the Ferrania films?
the cheapest color reversal film I know of is the CT Precisa, about 6/7 euros for 1 135 size film. The most expansive is the Velvia 50, selling at 13/15€ for 1 135 size film. So it should cost something in between. Like 10€ for 1 roll
Yes, ferraniachrome has to be pretty good to compete with CT precisa.
There is also the digibase cr200 which I believe is an old emulsion. I tried it years ago but wasn't impressed; grainy and yellow. Yes, ferraniachrome has to be pretty good to compete with CT precisa. Also new ektachrome is coming and if I remember well it was about 10€ when it was discontinued
Ive never had the yellow problems with it, but my stock was from Wittner-Cinetec.
The rollei stuff had a bad batch that went yellow, its believed this was due to bad storage.
Economy of scale is so far on Fuji's side here, that Ferrania (or any other small film maker) won't stand a chance in terms of pricing.Or lower priced. If it is priced lower than CT Precisa it would be a big hit
Or maybe just another color palette? There's plenty of room here after both E100G and Astia left the market, and nobody knows yet what the new E100 will be.Or... if price can't be lowered the alternative is to offer something that isn't on the market:
400 - speed,
any tungsten speed
1000 - speed,
etc.
Yes I agree, I'd be happy with something similar to Astia in terms of colour rendition. An high speed reversal would be much appreciated as well though. The most important thing though is the dyes stability over time.Economy of scale is so far on Fuji's side here, that Ferrania (or any other small film maker) won't stand a chance in terms of pricing.
Or maybe just another color palette? There's plenty of room here after both E100G and Astia left the market, and nobody knows yet what the new E100 will be.
BTW: if one just starts film production from scratch, and market takeup are not yet certain, a lower ISO product has much better storage capabilities. Therefore I'd be very surprised if Ferrania came out with a high ISO emulsion any time soon.
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