The "silver rich" part was marketing.OK, so the whole silver thing with Efke was purley marketing?
I know a few people were saddened when Efke closed, and all i would hear from them was about it being the last plant that made "high" silver content film lol
I think it is late 60ies. It is 16mm, my uncle used it in a Minolta cam which he gave to my mom along with the bulk roll of film in the '70s... Which I in turn found in a box some years ago. You still get images in the film! But don't really expect anything comparable to the new versionThats cool that you still have some old stock P30!
Do you know when it was last made produced?
High silver was touted because of its so-called high image quality compared to some modern films. It is nothing more than a marketing issue for some that cannot do the correct sensitization.
PE
OK, interesting to know. Makes complete sense.The "silver rich" part was marketing.
The old emulsions, spectral sensitivity, contrast, grain, reciprocity behavior etc. was what it was. Some people liked it, and amongst those people it was popular.
IIRC, in some parts of the world it was also inexpensive. People liked that.
Their IR sensitive material was also relatively unique in the market at the end. People liked that.
But mostly, I think people were unhappy that something they appreciated was going away forever. I understand that - I still have a little bit of Plus-X that I will miss when I've shot and developed it all.
@(there was a url link here which no longer exists) you can still find efke film on ebay if you're curious. I have some and use it as a "curiosity" film, it is like using fresh film directly from the 50's. It was actually the same formulas and the same machines! But I completely agree with PE on the criticism.
Exactly!
[With one small exception: For reversal processing it is indeed often a bit easier / better results with films with a bit higher silver content (like Adox Silvermax / Adox Scala 160 BW, Agfa Scala 200X, Fomapan R).]
I also suspect thats why people like shooting negative films that are high in silver, as they give better results if they want them processed as reversal.I've already commented here and elsewhere that high silver is a benefit in some types of B&W reversal.
PE
3M invested in Ferrania because (i guess) their plan was to compete against Kodak (3M was already a big company by then and was leader in magnetic tape production as well as other types of tape. 3M is an amazing company!)
Later 3M split off the imaging division to IMATION and i guess that the corresponding Imation Chrome was aimed more as an amateur, low cost, good E6 film. Which is what I would love to have now.
So the guys at FILM Ferrania must own right now a lot of intellectual property - lots of formulas, etc.
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If you go really broke you can boil off the emulsion and reclaim the silver. A few rolls will get you enough to buy a few potatoes.
Whatever it is, the italians are people with great aesthetic taste that shows in their food, movies, clothing, architecture, cars, and a long standing passion for sophisticated engineering (Ferrari, Ducati, etc), so i would expect that these qualities are also going to permeate through the film products.
I'm interested to hear from those who have shot Efke themselves, but perhaps the side effects from the high silver content was what people liked about that film? I believe it was very high contrast due to the silver content.
I asked more info on this film and expressed interested in buying five of them but alas no answer.
Sorry it clearly stated 35mm to beginI've been away for a few days and what happens? FILM Ferrania introduces their first film, a lovely looking B&W film. I'm hoping it's available in 120 at introduction, as I have a hard time shooting B&W and don't like committing to 36 frames (or even 24!) of B&W. If it's in 120, I only commit to 12 frames.
Go Ferrania!
Look guys, 35 mm is coated on 5 mil support, 120 on 4 mil support and sheet films on 7 mil support (all figures approximate).
Give the guys at Ferrania a break. They cannot be everything to everyone.
You are talking like the Lieutenant that was so excited about his first cavalry battle that he jumped on his horse and rode off in all directions at once.
One thing at a time!
PE
You are talking like the Lieutenant that was so excited about his first cavalry battle that he jumped on his horse and rode off in all directions at once.
One thing at a time!
PE
OK, so the whole silver thing with Efke was purley marketing?
I know a few people were saddened when Efke closed, and all i would hear from them was about it being the last plant that made "high" silver content film lol
Look guys, 35 mm is coated on 5 mil support, 120 on 4 mil support and sheet films on 7 mil support (all figures approximate).
Give the guys at Ferrania a break. They cannot be everything to everyone.
You are talking like the Lieutenant that was so excited about his first cavalry battle that he jumped on his horse and rode off in all directions at once.
One thing at a time!
PE
+1!
And besides, whats wrong with 35mm?
B&W film usually has very high resolution as it is!
pAg or vAg (two similar measurements like pH) were found to be the controlling factors. A chart of grain shape vs pAg by Herb Wilgus is in my book. Basically, a new method of controlling fog growth with organic chemicals are used to control the latest chemical sensitization methods. One is Tetra Aza Indene and the other is Phenyl Mercapto Tetrazole. I describe TAI and PMT in my book as well. They are used to either increase sensitivity or retard fog.
PE
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