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I believe that the phrase in the update is "cases of 100 rolls every day of the week, week after week"
I believe that the phrase in the update is "cases of 100 rolls every day of the week, week after week"I read, "100 rolls every day of the week, week after week"...
I presume you mean bulk rolls. What does that translate to in say 35mm x 36 exp. equivalents?
I just posted the latest update from the factory:
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I read, "100 rolls every day of the week, week after week"...
I presume you mean bulk rolls. What does that translate to in say 35mm x 36 exp. equivalents?
Wow, this is great news! I unfortunately missed out on the early P30 sales, so the opportunity to pick some up is exciting. Regarding the air quality, what did it affect in the film? The only thing I can think of is dust scratching the film, and that could very well be the case.
I used to train and wrench for bike racers. After a significant repair or overhaul the first ride was done with instructions to ride no harder than 70% until the bike was dialed and trustworthy. That meant a brain-set that said to be prepared to stop about 100 yards at a time. An adjustment in tire pressure...seat height...bar position...brake-lever position..shifting under load needed adjustment.Yes, much of the waste was due to film being scratched during coating. It really does not take much to ruin a batch - and 99.9% of it never even left the building. This caused a brutal stop-and-fix-and-start cycle that wasted a lot of time - time being an equally important factor in our costs. We finally managed to get many things under control, and produce a decent size batch, only to have a humidity issue that ruined much of it. This was due to leaks in "new" roof that was installed in 2015 - but by that time, the government had agreed to come back and finish the work properly (plus install the new power plant).
The small bit of silver lining is that this (third) "forced holiday" gave our team the space they needed to process everything they learned during Alpha production, and to formulate a clear plan for our return.
Hopefully a bit more than 100 per day. But it will all be single rolls of 36 exposures. And 120. We're determined not to relaunch until we have 35mm AND 120....
Yes, much of the waste was due to film being scratched during coating. It really does not take much to ruin a batch - and 99.9% of it never even left the building. This caused a brutal stop-and-fix-and-start cycle that wasted a lot of time - time being an equally important factor in our costs. We finally managed to get many things under control, and produce a decent size batch, only to have a humidity issue that ruined much of it. This was due to leaks in "new" roof that was installed in 2015 - but by that time, the government had agreed to come back and finish the work properly (plus install the new power plant).
The small bit of silver lining is that this (third) "forced holiday" gave our team the space they needed to process everything they learned during Alpha production, and to formulate a clear plan for our return.
For all those people just don't understand what the word "Alpha" really means...
You haven't seen much commercial software yet, have you ?Manufacturers typically do not charge money for beta products, much less Alpha.
Excellent reply.You haven't seen much commercial software yet, have you ?
For all those people just don't understand what the word "Alpha" really means...
You haven't seen much commercial software yet, have you ?
You haven't seen much commercial software yet, have you ?
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Yep.....+1.....thumbs up...."like".
One might also add books, especially educational and academic books, which have been known to be published with a message to the effect that the purchaser should look for errors and will report them to the publisher for the next edition.
It was always made clear that P30 Alpha was offered for testing. Nobody was forced to pay for it. Nobody was hoodwinked into thinking it was a completely finalised, commercial product....as long as they read the announcements. The fact that P30 Alpha is a beautiful film bodes well for the future of Film Ferrania. I will definitely be buying P30 in 120, and 220 if it is released.
Nonsense. Academic tex books go through heavy review stages. I worked for a professor who was part of a review team and his workload was awesome, reviewing draft after draft after draft. The result of his work was hardly "Alpha". He was one of at least 25 reviewers for the same text.
You haven't seen much commercial software yet, have you ?
Excellent reply.
Manufacturers typically do not charge money for beta products, much less Alpha.
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Are you trying to make a version of Ballmer’s “developers” chant?
Factory outlets selling product that didn't meet quality standards for shipping to retailers is perfectly common.
Oh complete tosh. Most of my Physics, Mathematics and Electronics textbooks have notes to the effect that the author welcomes mistakes being reported to the publisher. I work in secondary education, have done for 19 years, and the school textbooks are often similarly expected to have mistakes with teachers and students encouraged to report them.
Of course they go through editing, proof-reading....and yet mistakes still get through especially in new or first editions of a book. I am sure that Film Ferrania tested P30 Alpha before manufacturing the batch that they sold. Indeed their website chronicled the initial testing by Nicola, I believe.
Additionally, I was not saying that academic books are alpha products.....I said "one might also add books"....it's another example of an industry where it is accepted that imperfect products will be released and the users are encouraged to report the imperfections by the manufacturer/publisher.
Manufacturers typically do not charge money for beta products, much less Alpha.
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