I didn't ignore that much people. Only some very persistent and arrogant haters that seem to have too much time in their hands.
And only 10 pages long? ;-)
I'd like to make myself clear once more as well. I understand that the route to a good colour film goes through a good b w film, and I also understand that making a colour film is not something that can happen in a flick of the wrist like Ferrania made it look like when the project started (yes the mythological window that closed...I know). I wish them luck (besides what others might think I am not an hater) but my point is not that, my point is that they never had a reasonable timeline from the beginning. All I say is that their credibility is very low at the moment and it is not through telling stories that they'll make a sustainable business. The way their spokesman talk to people who have reasonable doubts is utterly ridiculous and non professional.I have said this before! I'll rephrase it here. The route to a good color film is through a good B&W film. ALL color films are made with what are fundamentally B&W emulsions. So, what they have done is completely logical to me, even if it is not to some of you.
PE
The fact that Ferrania think that their products are viable is obvious by the fact that they are trying to manufacture and sell them. I'm sure they know it won't be easy and that they have their work cut out, and they obviously feel that the effort is worth it. Your answers are there, plain and simple. If Ferrania didn't believe, they'd stop.
I'd like to make myself clear once more as well. I understand that the route to a good colour film goes through a good b w film, and I also understand that making a colour film is not something that can happen in a flick of the wrist like Ferrania made it look like when the project started. I wish them luck (besides what others might think I am not an hater) but my point is not that, my point is that they never had a reasonable timeline from the beginning. All I say is that their credibility is very low at the moment and it is not through telling stories that they'll make a sustainable business. The way their spokesman talk to people who have reasonable doubts is utterly ridiculous and non professional.
I think the Italian staff made a great job and selling the p30 is a good idea too. I honestly don't think their efforts will be enough to make a profitable business for the future, but that is just my point of view
Wasn't P30 some sort of a happy incident and it made you guys say "hey, you know what, we should sell this stuff, it's great!"
My point, made several times, but not addressed, is whether, given the changes in the market over four years, there is still a viable and ongoing long-term demand to give the needed sales volume of the suggested future products (which are of a specialist nature). I'm not negative....but IDK.
Sounds like they could use your help in Washington right nowJust try being married with a house full of children and try to plan a picnic. One in which you need governmental approval!
Look, the world is observing two film manufacturers that both promised to bring a reversal color film to the market, namely Film Ferrania with a Scotchchrome or Ferraniachrome or whatever it might be called eventually and Kodak with some kind of a new Ektachrome. Me as a motion-picture film technician, in the narrowest sense who have seen base making on the go, subbing, and coating, who have experienced Eastman-Kodak specialists trying to set CRI and ECN-2 processes back on track, who have exposed and developed almost every film made between the 60s and today, even age-old Pathé stock customers have sent to my lab, I can only say that I have mountains more of faith in Ferrania than Kodak. You Ferrania folks talk at least, be it also very talkative at times, but the Kodakers veil themselves in silence and that is only embarrassing. What Kodak published about a planned Super-8 camera was amateurish, the presentations by people who you think they can hardly pull on their pants alone, plain stuporous.
Film Ferrania lives in the 21st century, they showed some of their perforators in videos, they showed themselves at work. I shall never buy any Ektachrome, should it become available, but the stock from Italy.
That is what I mean. You make me feel like I have to justify myself for what I think, while it is you that should work hard and try to make me see things a different way. You are hostile to the hostiles and that is not gonna work because it is you that is trying to sell something, not me.You can just call me Dave, Berri. I'm the "utterly ridiculous and non professional" spokesman. No one else is to blame.
If we do go out of business at some point in the future, you are free to give yourself a giant pat on the back for being so insightful.
If I was in the position of planning that picnic, I surely wouldn't say we'd all be by the meadow at twelve when the clock says elevenBerri, no one can accurately predict a timeline such as this. My opinions do not matter despite my prior experience. All plans go awry. Just try being married with a house full of children and try to plan a picnic. One in which you need governmental approval!
PE
If I was in the position of planning that picnic, I surely wouldn't say we'd all be by the meadow at twelve when the clock says eleven
Does that mean Kodak is also very unlikely to reintroduce Ektachrome in Q4 this year as announced in January?I think that I have more experience than the average bear. Charles is right. Things never go as expected in R&D.
PE
why not simply under promise and try to over deliver?depends how far the trip to the meadow is. What both Dave and PE are saying is that the road is full of ruts and the car probably needs some repairs. But the picnic might be as soon as 12 or It might be next month, but lets be optimistic.
quite possible, although they have way more staff and resources than ferraniaDoes that mean Kodak is also very unlikely to reintroduce Ektachrome in Q4 this year as announced in January?
You can just call me Dave, Berri. I'm the "utterly ridiculous and non professional" spokesman. No one else is to blame.
If we do go out of business at some point in the future, you are free to give yourself a giant pat on the back for being so insightful.
Unbelievable. Is Ferrania a serious company to reply in this tone ?
Unbelievable. Is Ferrania a serious company to reply in this tone ?
Therefore, it's sound advice to "expect the unexpected". Successful businesses throughout the world have learned this from bitter experience.I think that I have more experience than the average bear. Charles is right. Things never go as expected in R&D.
PE
This has been advised a number of times before. But nothing that in any way even smacks of questioning the status quo seems to be tolerated on this forum.why not simply under promise and try to over deliver?
why not simply under promise and try to over deliver?
If you can't justify your criticisms, the old saying many mothers express to their children ("If you've nothing nice to say, say nothing") seems appropriate....feel like I have to justify myself for what I think...
As best I can determine, Film Ferrania is a commercial enterprise, not a Christian sect. Turning the other cheek is what members of the latter group do. Defending themselves when attacked typifies behavior of the former category....You are hostile to the hostiles...
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