Hasselblad 501c issue

[Steven Lee]

I feel like there's something Ralph is not saying. He's been shooting Hasselblads for a very long time. Having a single malfunction like this would not be enough to upset him so much. I am guessing he's experiencing a streak of failures. Maybe his 501C (or the lens) has developed a chronic issue and just needs to be retired and replaced, instead of being subjected to futile repair attempts.

 

[Ai Print]

Ha! I spoke too soon of my no-issue gear and jinxed my self.

I just did an exercise session and it seems the upper barn door on one of my 501CM's is not opening all the way. I spent about 20 minutes using it to run through all my lenses and no nice, it's not a lube issue that I can tell.

The date of CLA on the bottom says 10/2017 so it is reasonably recent but maybe the spring went bad or some lube seized up, the room it lives in is dry and is a steady 60 degrees. Looks like I have to send it in.

 

[Arthurwg]

Looks like I have to send it in.

Where will you send it? I used to use David Odess, so looking for a new tech person.

 

[Ian David]

There's a common assumption that all CLAs are competent and thorough. Clearly not the case, and that situation will only get worse as time goes by. And you only have to read through a couple of other threads around here to see all the various concoctions and procedures people will use on their own cameras to achieve a quick fix of some issue or other.
Any Hasselblad V system camera is now getting quite old. Many have been subjected to seriously hard professional use. Many have suffered long-term poor storage. Many have been subjected to poor 'CLA'. Many have been subjected to home maintenance by people who would struggle to change a tap washer. Many have developed an issue due to the above reasons, then been temporarily patched up and sold on to someone else. It's actually pretty surprising that many of them continue to work as well as they do.

 

[Ai Print]

Where will you send it? I used to use David Odess, so looking for a new tech person.

Either Steve's Camera or Samy's, both in LA.

Steve's is very expensive, I had him look into a blade not retracting all the way on an 80 CFe in the Fall and he said it was fine but said the focus could use some lube which was debatable. I had him do it anyway and was surprised to see the $400 price tag on it when done.

Not sure what Samy's will want for the hung barn door but hopefully not as bad as as the "lube job".

 

[Steven Lee]

@Ai Print Why not the most natural place - Hasselblad USA? They're also near LA and Odess himself admitted to me that certain repairs can only be done by them.

 

[Ai Print]

@Ai Print Why not the most natural place - Hasselblad USA? They're also near LA and Odess himself admitted to me that certain repairs can only be done by them.

When they moved the operation from NJ to LA, they lost a ton of long time and well trained staff in regards to the V system. So I am waiting a bit longer to see what plays out with that as Steve's and Samy's are very much known quantities and I only go with known quantities.

 

[Sirius Glass]

I have used Steve's Camera, Samy's Camera and Hasselblad all in the Los Angeles area and KEH in Georgia.

 

[Bill Burk]

On Facebook, a group “Learn Camera Repair” has a regular contributor “James Holman” who posts progress on some Hasselblad repairs. Based on his posts and style, I’d recommend getting a complete overhaul from him.

 

[RalphLambrecht]

On Facebook, a group “Learn Camera Repair” has a regular contributor “James Holman” who posts progress on some Hasselblad repairs. Based on his posts and style, I’d recommend getting a complete overhaul from him.

I wouldn't just have to pay for the CLA and two-way shipping but also for import duties and most-likely VAT again; ouch. No thanks. Luckily, I still have one working 501c body and lens

 

[Philippe-Georges]

I wouldn't just have to pay for the CLA and two-way shipping but also for import duties and most-likely VAT again; ouch. No thanks. Luckily, I still have one working 501c body and lens

Why going outside of Germany, I heard that https://www.arluewa.de/cms/en/ is good...

 

[RalphLambrecht]

Why go outside of Germany, I heard that https://www.arluewa.de/cms/en/ is good...

I've used them with success! Unfortunately,they are so overloaded that they are not taking on any new repairs;but yes, they are a good source for mechanical camera repairs.

 

[Sirius Glass]

I wouldn't just have to pay for the CLA and two-way shipping but also for import duties and most-likely VAT again; ouch. No thanks. Luckily, I still have one working 501c body and lens

Are the import duties and VAT on owned equipment that has been repaired? I would expect that on new or used equipment purchased. If so, fly out to Los Angeles, take it to Hasselblad and you can stay at my place while you wait for the repair.

 

[Philippe-Georges]

Are the import duties and VAT on owned equipment that has been repaired? I would expect that on new or used equipment purchased. If so, fly out to Los Angeles, take it to Hasselblad and you can stay at my place while you wait for the repair.

Over here, in Belgium although, there is a special customs document, I think it's called A.T.A., so to send an owned item outside the EEC for a 'treatment', and then to (re-) import it duty free, but there will be VAT and perhaps other duties to be payed on the value of that 'treatment' as such...

I know of a musician who had to pay for the repair outside the EEC for his own instrument (a Moroccan Ued) so much that the VAT and the import taxes on that instrument and the repair of it all together, surpassed the original value of that instrument by far, he didn't knew about that famous (A.T.A.) document...

 

[RalphLambrecht]

Are the import duties and VAT on owned equipment that has been repaired? I would expect that on new or used equipment purchased. If so, fly out to Los Angeles, take it to Hasselblad and you can stay at my place while you wait for the repair.

Thank you for that kind offer!

 

[kurtscamerasdca]

I'm perplexed. I'm not new to this camera; this issue got me. The camera and its normal 80mmf/2.8 CF lens have been stored safely in a foam-packed aluminum case. I took it out yesterday and tried to mount the lens after cocking the camera first but the lens couldn't be mounted. It just fell out of the mount and luckily onto my bed. No way to establish a solid connection. Ever heard of that?

It seems like you've already seen this, but our comment is "The lens needs to be cocked so the timing is accurate. If he cocked the camera and not the lens, they won't sync up."

Not much more we can add without seeing it.

-Kurt's Camera SD CA

 

[Sirius Glass]

It seems like you've already seen this, but our comment is "The lens needs to be cocked so the timing is accurate. If he cocked the camera and not the lens, they won't sync up."

Not much more we can add without seeing it.

-Kurt's Camera SD CA

There is a problem with the shutter shaft and servicing is needed. That happens when a lens gets used enough.

 

[RalphLambrecht]

the lens has been demoted to a paperweight!

 

[chuckroast]

I just reread this thread and have a comment off to the side of the deceased lens. I would not recommend storing camera equipment in fitted foam cases for long periods of time. Over the long haul, the foam will break down into nasty little pieces and powder and can adhere to anything it touches.

For this reason I use soft cases with movable dividers wherein the foam is on the interior of the divider not the exterior. The one situation where a fitted foam case might make sense is when shipping or traveling with the equipment where it's going to be treated as luggage (shudder). But even in that scenario, there are options like this:

www.amazon.com/Pelican-1510-Padded-Dividers-Black/dp/B0019CSVMW

 

[RalphLambrecht]

to finish up this thread,the issue is fixed. I'm afraid it was a typical Hasselblad issue that the lens was not cocked and the body was;both need to be cocked to attach the lens. I knew that but was unable to cock the lens off body. a superfriendly customerassistant at a camera dealer in Cologne (Lambertin)did it for me and showed me how to do it myself in the future.Pretty nice considering that I ddn't even buy the camera there, but they certainly won a new customer for the future, Thanks for all the valuable hints on Photrio too!

 

[Sirius Glass]

to finish up this thread,the issue is fixed. I'm afraid it was a typical Hasselblad issue that the lens was not cocked and the body was;both need to be cocked to attach the lens. I knew that but was unable to cock the lens off body. a super friendly customer assistant at a camera dealer in Cologne (Lambertin) did it for me and showed me how to do it myself in the future.Pretty nice considering that I didn't even buy the camera there, but they certainly won a new customer for the future, Thanks for all the valuable hints on Photrio too!

I am happy to see your great success.

 

[Steven Lee]

@RalphLambrecht The very first reply you got in this thread suggested to check whether the lens was cocked. Something was lost in translation here.

 

[Don_ih]

Something was lost in translation here.

Maybe:

 

[Sirius Glass]

Just do not go off half cocked, as that will get one in trouble with a Hasselblad.

 

[RalphLambrecht]

@RalphLambrecht The very first reply you got in this thread suggested to check whether the lens was cocked. Something was lost in translation here.

the lens was cocked but the slot was not in line with the red dot! mia culpa;mia culpa; mia maxima culpa