Orwo, Lucky, Polaroid, Efke, ERA, Forte, Fuda, Ilford (Super HR) all made colour negative film at one point or another. And I’m sure a few others.
Does the surely mean you haven't checked? You can check for yourself without a Facebook account and see with a google search that Harman Technology and Harman Photo both have a presence on Facebook, and that they're both terrible. Harman Technology has a page that hasn't been updated since Feb 2021 if you can believe that, and Harman Photo has only four posts about "Coming Soon". That's it for Facebook.Harman Technology has had a Facebook and Twitter account for a number of years surely
Some of the names above did manufacture C41 films while some manufactured Colour film based on the old Agfacolor process (pre C41) This Agfacolor process is now obsolete, and for a good reason. It couldn't keep up with colour, quality and grain of the modern C41 films.
So the list is not really a correct representation of color film manufacturers.
So as we can see, C41 film manufacture is not simple and easy to do. If it was, there would be more companies doing it.
- Orwo 35 mm was old Agfacolor based until the late 1980s. They did manufacture some C41 and then rebadged, Ferrania & Konica 35mm film.
- Lucky C41 35mm was partnered with Kodak for a while.
- Polaroid C41 35mm was rebadged Agfa-Gevaert, Konica, Ferrania.
- Efke 35mm was old Agfacolor based and then C41 was rebadged Ferrania & Konica.
- Era C41 35mm was made in China, so I presume by Lucky.
- Forte 35mm was old Agfacolor based and C41 was rebadged Ferrania, Agfa-Gevaert, Konica.
- Fuda C41 35mm was made in China, so I presume by Lucky.
- Ilfocolor C41 35mm, from the early 1980s to mid1990 (?) was rebadged Konica, Ferrania, Agfa-Gevaert.
Look, Harman are bad at social media. Comically bad. And that's okay, I get the feeling they're focused on making complicated products rather than social media. It's fine.
Ilford does a much better job on social media, with about a half million followers on Instagram and a solid effort of outreach on Youtube too, with engaging videos for beginners and experts alike. Ilford leverages investment in social media to sell product. It costs them money and time but it's worth it.
Except Ilford is just a brand/trade name that Harman uses for their main product lines.
There is no longer any entity that is properly described as "Ilford". Not the black and white film producer - Harman - or the current owner of the license to use the Ilford name for non-black and white products that came out of the series of bankruptcies of the entity that once was Ilford.
Who knows, other than Nico, and he's not talking!!!
Elsewhere i have read the big reveal is 1st Dec, so this thread could go on a while if thats actually true...
Harman Technology has had a Facebook and Twitter account for a number of years surely
Yes I confess to my question above to being a kind of Uriah Heep obsequious "umbleness" A lot of U.S. residents would regard this as a kind of faux humbleness and its a sign of us being divided in some cultural aspects For several years now Harman has entered the social media world and yes Harman is not a new "green behind the ears " amateur start-up company but is as Matt says the company that was started up post the Ilford bankruptcy It files its business accounts with Companies House as Harman but uses the name of the pre bankruptcy Ilford for its films and chemicals presumably for the sake of customer familiarity and because changing its product names to Harman in big letters was risky for sales I believe that Harman technology does however appear in smaller print on its products
Might it be on the verge of changing its name to Harman in big letters for everything? I cannot say. Some here seem to think that this may be the big announcement which is coming soon in which case we will see no new products but if its any consolation to those hoping for a new product to be announced I rather doubt if the big announcement is simply or even likely to be the name of Harman appearing as the prominent name on its film and chemicals
Assuming of course that there is a big announcement to come My jury is still very much out on this
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Who owns the rights to the name "Ilford" ?
So there is some entity (Ilford) that is receiving revenue from Harman Technologies? I am trying to say, is there someone who, if I wanted to make Ilford branded felt tip pens, or Ilford electronics (I'm reminded of Polaroid TVs and VHS tape), I could call them up and license the name Ilford???
If as a few have speculated Harman may end up marketing products without the Ilford name, well I wish them luck. They will need it! If that is the case they should hire a PR/Social Media executive like yesterday.
Who owns the rights to the name "Ilford" ?
If Harman rebrands everything Harman will there be Chinese HP5 and Multigrade paper being sold?
Goodness I hope not.
the black on black materials they're handing out.
Ergo it could be colour film. But that seems like a pipe dream given the complexities involved in its manufacture. If Harman have perfected production of C41 film, even if they have help from Fuji, that would be astounding.
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