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Just give me at least ONE E-6 film, just one type of Ektachrome like E200 or something! I'm not going to get into asking for KR64 back but Ektachrome 200 would be a nice surprise....Also at least one Tungsten balanced film...Maybe a new and improved version of Portra 100T that could be faster so maybe a Portra 500T? I think it would fit in the line nicely.
 

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Unless it's internal communications or you have signed a non-disclosure clause they can't enforce any confidentiality on messages such as that. As soon as they press send it's public domain.
 
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Thanks Stone.
I think though that you don't understand about those confidentiality warnings :smile:.
It isn't up to the recipient to determine what is and isn't confidential, if the email says it is confidential.
It is different if the warning says that the email may be confidential.

I know, I do "understand" but I also know that kodak should expect photographers to discuss this sort of thing, and I don't feel I shared anything that would get them upset, and I also don't think they are about to sue me for it...

I could have paraphrased the whole thing and "be covered" but why bother? I don't have much anyway... If they sue me the most they would get would be half a box of 4x5 TMY-2 and some 4x5 Delta100 and 4x5 HP5+... And PanF+ in 120... And... Velvia50/100 in 120 and 4x5... That's about it!

They mostly wouldn't want any of that....

Unless it's internal communications or you have signed a non-disclosure clause they can't enforce any confidentiality on messages such as that. As soon as they press send it's public domain.



Also, what he said ^^^^
 
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Go Ferrania...

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Just give me at least ONE E-6 film, just one type of Ektachrome like E200 or something! I'm not going to get into asking for KR64 back but Ektachrome 200 would be a nice surprise....Also at least one Tungsten balanced film...Maybe a new and improved version of Portra 100T that could be faster so maybe a Portra 500T? I think it would fit in the line nicely.

Vision3 500T.... It's tungsten...

And support Fuji while it exists... They have 3 E-6 films in production...still... Keep it coming!

Since kodak JUST discontinued their E-6 chemistry they won't be bringing back any E-6, it sucks but I asked and no was a definite answer.
 

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It is true that you probably cannot enforce a tacked on confidentiality clause except in certain limited circumstances, but it is also true that is really bad form to ignore the request contained in it - unless you want to alienate the person who sent it.
And if there hadn't already been a request for E6 and a response, I would have added that too.
 

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It is true that you probably cannot enforce a tacked on confidentiality clause except in certain limited circumstances, but it is also true that is really bad form to ignore the request contained in it - unless you want to alienate the person who sent it.
And if there hadn't already been a request for E6 and a response, I would have added that too.

Well now I feel bad and you think poorly if my choice, well I was only trying to share the info, I was just saving time and making sure I didn't rephrase the response incorrectly...next time I will paraphrase.
 

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i also got a response from mr mooney
(cc'd to ms jonckeer with pr )
also a confidentiality clause

they obviously read the letter they got
and and the response is kind of a nice personalized form letter
 
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They aren't going to say anything in an email to you that's not already cleared for public dissemination, since, in that context, you are john q. public.

The paragraph probably gets added automatically by their email server and it's not something the sender even has any control over.
 

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They aren't going to say anything in an email to you that's not already cleared for public dissemination, since, in that context, you are john q. public.

The paragraph probably gets added automatically by their email server and it's not something the sender even has any control over.

That was my feeling, that's what happens to my moms emails, even when she sends me stuff about cats, the American spirit, and pictures she sees on the intent she sends to "connect" with me about photography... (Yes mom, send me other peoples photography and tell me how beautiful it is, instead of buying one of my pieces [or even just display one in the home] you like to help support my vision...thanks...) lol
 

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When I was practicing, every email I sent included a phrase that indicated that the contents may be confidential and protected by a claim for solicitor-client privilege.

That clause was there in order to:
1) help support a claim of solicitor-client privilege, even if the information went to the wrong person by mistake; and
2) help support a demand to a third party to keep information confidential.

The clause is there so that if the confidentiality of the email is unclear, it will be presumed to be confidential - it leaves it up to the recipient to enquire about sharing.

If you have that at the end of your email, it is sloppy to send out something that is intended to be public without saying so.

And as to Kodak sending something to you that is not intended to be shared with the public, I would expect that they would treat the email as private, unless you invited them to share it.
 

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When I was practicing, every email I sent included a phrase that indicated that the contents may be confidential and protected by a claim for solicitor-client privilege.

That clause was there in order to:
1) help support a claim of solicitor-client privilege, even if the information went to the wrong person by mistake; and
2) help support a demand to a third party to keep information confidential.

The clause is there so that if the confidentiality of the email is unclear, it will be presumed to be confidential - it leaves it up to the recipient to enquire about sharing.

If you have that at the end of your email, it is sloppy to send out something that is intended to be public without saying so.

And as to Kodak sending something to you that is not intended to be shared with the public, I would expect that they would treat the email as private, unless you invited them to share it.

The new kodak leaser publicly asked for questions to be answered, I can't imagine they expected all the answers and replies to be kept private and secret.... Anyway, what's done is done.
 
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