Problems you have with sharpening are interesting !!!!
Are you using "single slider" sharpening tools ? Remember that at least "two sliders" tools are required, radius and 100%, this is about balancing well radius and % and carefully avoiding the least overshot.
Please let me explain you again that I never oversharpen, with the V700 image I do the same that your Pro scanner does inside automaticly without you are aware.
Look, those crops are not mine, mostly corresponds to side by side made by others (nothing forged) showing Epson is inferior, then I present the same crop at x10 to x20, and amazingly the images do match perfectly, to the point that you may even not know if the image comes from the Epson or from Creo - Scanmate_Drum - Howtek_drum_Nikon500ED - Flextight.
Hey... take a look again, click on the thumbnails to see the 10x or 20x, NO difference, NO excessive sharpening:
I absolutely agree to those facts.
People sometimes forget that we are dealing with psychooptics (don’t know if there is a better word, I derive it from psychoacoustics).
Each of your 'examples' has errors of omission. .
Lachlan, in all those side by side you have the original scans, do some homework, take the crops, optimize to their best and post the difference. Speak less and post the difference (if you can) at x10 presentation.
Look, if you are able edit the images to their best you won't find a difference, I challenge you to find it.
here you have the sources:
Evidence 1
https://www.photrio.com/forum/threads/from-youtube-drum-scan-vs-dslr-vs-epson-via-nick-carver.172770/page-8#post-2255081
https://www.photrio.com/forum/threads/from-youtube-drum-scan-vs-dslr-vs-epson-via-nick-carver.172770/page-7#post-2255045
Evidence 2
https://www.photrio.com/forum/threads/from-youtube-drum-scan-vs-dslr-vs-epson-via-nick-carver.172770/page-6#post-2254109
Evidence 3
https://www.photrio.com/forum/threads/from-youtube-drum-scan-vs-dslr-vs-epson-via-nick-carver.172770/page-5#post-2253761
Evidence 4
https://www.photrio.com/forum/threads/from-youtube-drum-scan-vs-dslr-vs-epson-via-nick-carver.172770/page-4#post-2253104
Evidence 5
https://www.photrio.com/forum/threads/from-youtube-drum-scan-vs-dslr-vs-epson-via-nick-carver.172770/page-8#post-2255078
Seems most of these posts were written by the same wankers that tweet @ $3.00/hr for the Orange Bloat.
Lachlan, in all those side by side you have the original scans, do some homework, take the crops, optimize to their best and post the difference. Speak less and post the difference (if you can) at x10 presentation.
Look, if you are able edit the images to their best you won't find a difference, I challenge you to find it.
here you have the sources:
Evidence 1
https://www.photrio.com/forum/threads/from-youtube-drum-scan-vs-dslr-vs-epson-via-nick-carver.172770/page-8#post-2255081
https://www.photrio.com/forum/threads/from-youtube-drum-scan-vs-dslr-vs-epson-via-nick-carver.172770/page-7#post-2255045
Evidence 2
https://www.photrio.com/forum/threads/from-youtube-drum-scan-vs-dslr-vs-epson-via-nick-carver.172770/page-6#post-2254109
Evidence 3
https://www.photrio.com/forum/threads/from-youtube-drum-scan-vs-dslr-vs-epson-via-nick-carver.172770/page-5#post-2253761
Evidence 4
https://www.photrio.com/forum/threads/from-youtube-drum-scan-vs-dslr-vs-epson-via-nick-carver.172770/page-4#post-2253104
Evidence 5
https://www.photrio.com/forum/threads/from-youtube-drum-scan-vs-dslr-vs-epson-via-nick-carver.172770/page-8#post-2255078
In case you are not also having a go:V950?!?! What V950? You mean V850?
Does the scan quality of a 35 mm frame depend on where it is placed in the V800 holder? That is, are central ones better because they’re nearer the lens’s axis?
(I’m not at all sure how the “dual lens system” is laid out or even what Epson means by those words.)
Instead of incessantly posting the same links to the same discredited or severely flawed 'tests', show us a crop of a scan of a smooth tone area from HP5+ from your own scanner with and without your claimed sharpening applied. Better yet, give examples originated at 1500, 2000, 3000ppi. If it's as easy as you claim, you must be able to demonstrate it with your own work. The church picture is not acceptable as a test.
...show us a crop of a scan of a smooth tone area from HP5+ from your own scanner with and without your claimed sharpening applied. Better yet, give examples originated at 1500, 2000, 3000ppi. If it's as easy as you claim, you must be able to demonstrate it with your own work. The church picture is not acceptable as a test.
I see. Thanks.
I wonder why Epson chose a 149.9 mm field for the “Super Resolution Lens”. That’s not enough for 8×10 but needlessly wide for 4×5 or 120 film.
Maybe there was no reason to further optimise the lens’s image quality while being limited by carriage drive mechanics in the other axis.
In case you are not also having a go:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning
By any chance are you the same dude who calls himself Pali on LargeFormatPhotography.Lachlan, sorry, but in particular this is not a discredited or severely flawed test: https://www.largeformatphotography....Epson-Flatbed-Eversmart-Flatbed-Drum-Scanners
Instead it's a really well done test, showing the superior/amazing optical performance of the Creo (5700 effective dpi in any format, if file under 4GByte) but same practical results because limitation in the image quality comes from film nature, beyond other limitations we may have in the taking.
I challenged you to find a difference in that particular side by side because nobody before you challenged its absolute fairness, you are now the very first, IIRC.
Better using the scans made by Pali, first they cannot be forged me, they can be absolutely trusted and we have both the full resolution original scans made by V700 and the Creo.
It's your chance to demonstrate that the Epson it's the "absolute crap" you are saying. Just calling to action.
I agree. I find him very entertaining, a person dedicated to photography. His enjoyment and love of the craft comes through.Some of these posts crack me up. If you make a photo and people are focusing on your scan technique, you made a bad photo.
For those who think Mr. Carver prepared a bad test, they should post their own test on YouTube and try to get 50,000 people to watch it. I'm glad people take the (considerable) time to produce these free videos for our entertainment. It ain't easy.
Too many pixel peepers here. Not enough photographers.
I thought so.. you are a funny guy Pali.. never let the bone go.Yes.
My view is that most important concern in the hybrid workflow is how we conserve graphic information through the edition, how we technically optimize the image and the most important, having a refined aesthetic criterion for the edition. Also, if dealing with color, it is important to master advanced tools like 3D LUT Creator or equivalent.
But anyway IMO it's interesting to know how different machines work, what strong and weak points are there, so we can make well informed decisions.
I thought so.. you are a funny guy Pali.. never let the bone go.
This member is absolutely not Pali,
also Pali K only has an ES Pro not Supreme.
This thread should finish up and be locked.
Lachlan, sorry, but in particular this is not a discredited or severely flawed test: https://www.largeformatphotography....Epson-Flatbed-Eversmart-Flatbed-Drum-Scanners
Instead it's a really well done test, showing the superior/amazing optical performance of the Creo (5700 effective dpi in any format, if file under 4GByte) but same practical results because limitation in the image quality comes from film nature, beyond other limitations we may have in the taking.
I challenged you to find a difference in that particular side by side because nobody before you challenged its absolute fairness, you are now the very first, IIRC.
Better using the scans made by Pali, first they cannot be forged me, they can be absolutely trusted and we have both the full resolution original scans made by V700 and the Creo.
It's your chance to demonstrate that the Epson it's the "absolute crap" you are saying. Just calling to action.
I know Pali and we operate several of the same machines, I don't have any problem with what he has posted.
In any case I have reported a number of posts and I don't think there is much further meaningful discussion to be had.
However I have seen you ruin several scanning threads across LFF and now Photrio which is such a shame,
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