Forte Polywarmtone

[ADOX Fotoimpex]

I've re-installed a red safelight (15W) in my darkroom with the intention of opening my one box of Polywarmtone, to get to know the paper again, now I know more will be available.

Tom

We will release a safe LED safelight (ADOX Supersafe) which works fine for Foma and PW NEW V1 together with the paper. But we are not 100% satisfied yet. This needs to be addressed in the future. However we thought it also does not make sense to wait longer now because of (just) this.

M.

 

[Sal Santamaura]

My February 9 post #288:

That looks quite nice Mirko. One cannot tell from the on-line image exactly how white the base is or how shiny the surface is. Would you please describe those characteristics in words, particularly with respect to how you intend the final product to appear, not just this test coating? Thank you very much in advance.

Today:

...A natural "Polywarmtone-Warmtone" as to be expected...The photo shows the Team which moves between Switzerland and Berlin on the Bodensee Ferryboat with the first meter of new PW in their hands...

You've given some indication about surface shine with that photo. It looks good -- not excessively glossy. However, I'm not sure whether "a natural Polywarmtone-Warmtone" describes the image color, base color or both. How does base color compare to, say, MCC 110's base color? Same amount of optical brightener used? Thanks.

 

[Truzi]

I interviewed even old timers @ Ilford and it is officially confirmed that Isabella was the first dog ever inside of a coating machine.

What ISO is the dog?

 

[ADOX Fotoimpex]

My February 9 post #288:Today:You've given some indication about surface shine with that photo. It looks good -- not excessively glossy. However, I'm not sure whether "a natural Polywarmtone-Warmtone" describes the image color, base color or both. How does base color compare to, say, MCC 110's base color? Same amount of optical brightener used? Thanks.

Same base as used by Forte between 2002 and 2008. The "Poylwarmtone-Color" describes the color of the image/silver. Natural warmtone as opposed to tinted coldtone emulsions.

 

[bdial]

This is great news Mirko, thanks for all the work you and your team are putting into this.

 

[pentaxuser]

I have seen some prints of Ian Grant's made on the old Polywarmtone and it is the only WT paper that I have seen that has a real "brown" colour that gets close to a real warm brown not unlike what I'd want a sepia-toned print to look like . By comparison Ilford WT does not really come close. If the new Adox matches this look of the old Polywarmtone then it's a hit with me.

pentaxuser

 

[naaldvoerder]

Exiting news. It is a marvel Adox managed to pull it of..

 

[juan]

I’m so excited about this. My kilos of amidol await this paper.

 

[Team ADOX]

We are making further progress with Polywarmtone: Here are the latest news:

http://www.adox.de/Photo/final-polywarmtone-layer-build-up/

 

[L Gebhardt]

We are making further progress with Polywarmtone: Here are the latest news:

http://www.adox.de/Photo/final-polywarmtone-layer-build-up/

Looks great! With the new emulsions matching the old and the warmer base it sounds perfect for me. Let’s hope all goes well in the beta tests so you can release this.

 

[Tom Kershaw]

Team Adox,

Your example clearly shows better 'detail contrast' in the Polywarmtone emulsion compared to MCC as you say. Is this simply an inherent advantage with warmtone variable contrast papers? I've noticed something similar with ILFORD MG WARMTONE, although I remember Mirko discussing in interview that Polywarmtone was more of a "pure" warmtone product whereas the ILFORD papers were neutral papers engineered towards a warmtone result.

Tom

 

[ADOX Fotoimpex]

Team Adox,

Your example clearly shows better 'detail contrast' in the Polywarmtone emulsion compared to MCC as you say. Is this simply an inherent advantage with warmtone variable contrast papers? I've noticed something similar with ILFORD MG WARMTONE, although I remember Mirko discussing in interview that Polywarmtone was more of a "pure" warmtone product whereas the ILFORD papers were neutral papers engineered towards a warmtone result.

Tom

This is inherent to slower speed, finer grain papers. "Regular" papers have about an 8 times higher speed than PW but then the speed is reduced by a lot of anti-foggants and stabilizers. This makes these papers easier to use. PW is a bit more challenging but in return you get a better image quality. MCC is inbetween.

 

[Renato Tonelli]

To ADOX:
I am very thankful to your dedication and perseverance.

 

[chris77]

To ADOX:
I am very thankful to your dedication and perseverance.

+1

 

[Henning Serger]

Excellent news!
I am really looking forward testing the new Polywarmtone. Wish you all the best and good luck for the final work to make this dream come true.

Best regards,
Henning

 

[mono]

Excellent news!
I am really looking forward testing the new Polywarmtone. Wish you all the best and good luck for the final work to make this dream come true.

Best regards,
Henning

+1

 

[Film-Niko]

This is inherent to slower speed, finer grain papers. "Regular" papers have about an 8 times higher speed than PW but then the speed is reduced by a lot of anti-foggants and stabilizers. This makes these papers easier to use. PW is a bit more challenging but in return you get a better image quality. MCC is inbetween.

Do I get this right: You expect Polywarmtone to be even better as your MCC paper? Or have I misunderstood your last sentences?
MCC is outstanding, I like it very much. From my experience it is at least on paar with Ilford. If that excellent quality would be even surpassed.....wow.

 

[ADOX Fotoimpex]

Do I get this right: You expect Polywarmtone to be even better as your MCC paper? Or have I misunderstood your last sentences?
MCC is outstanding, I like it very much. From my experience it is at least on paar with Ilford. If that excellent quality would be even surpassed.....wow.

No not in general. This was about the detail contrast only. But we improved PW and we are convinced it is better than the original version ever was. However a lot is personal taste and there will be some cheering us and others crying that old Forte was better ;-)

 

[naaldvoerder]

No not in general. This was about the detail contrast only. But we improved PW and we are convinced it is better than the original version ever was. However a lot is personal taste and there will be some cheering us and others crying that old Forte was better ;-)

It is new and fresh and unfogged! It must be better!

 

[Film-Niko]

No not in general. This was about the detail contrast only. But we improved PW and we are convinced it is better than the original version ever was. However a lot is personal taste and there will be some cheering us and others crying that old Forte was better ;-)

Thank you very much for the clarification.
I wish you and your team good luck and fast progress with your work. Not only with Polywarmtone, but also with all your other products.
Astonishing that a small company has so much different new products in the developing pipeline!
That has to be appreciated.

 

[ADOX Fotoimpex]

Thank you very much for the clarification.
I wish you and your team good luck and fast progress with your work. Not only with Polywarmtone, but also with all your other products.
Astonishing that a small company has so much different new products in the developing pipeline!
That has to be appreciated.

It´s not about size. It´s about passion. For all members of our team! ;-)

 

[Film-Niko]

It´s not about size. It´s about passion. For all members of our team! ;-)

Good to know .
I wish you and your team that you can keep that passion for many years to come!

 

[K-G]

Congratulations to a passionate team from a passionate photographer/printer and customer.

Karl-Gustaf

 

[adelorenzo]

Hello! It's been a while, can you provide any updates on when we might be able to buy the new Polywarmtone?

 

[Team ADOX]

Hello! It's been a while, can you provide any updates on when we might be able to buy the new Polywarmtone?

If all is working as planned - and no further unexpected setbacks happen - our new Polywarmtone will be on the market in the first half of 2020.

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