This is touched upon in the video I posted.
*Harman.
The datasheet confirms it's a high-contrast film.
The snippets I've glanced at of negatives on light boxes in the videos suggest it's indeed a very high contrast film with a gamma over 1 (normal C41 is 0.6 or so). The H/D curve in the datasheet is consistent with this.
Harman 200:
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Portra 400:
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That they got this far in just 12 months is difficult to understate. And for everyone getting terribly upset about contrast and colour reproduction, go watch the video that has the interview with the Harman photo engineers/ chemists - one of them literally states that the next job will be to sort the masking and anti-halation.
I am very interested by the suggestion in the cross-processing video that this can be shot and processed as though it were Ektachrome 64T.
Thank you for providing examples of what this film is capable of doing.
Leonid,
All the sample pics I'm seeing from the new Harmon film are very high in contrast. Was the Svema film like that? I'm wondering if the Harmon stuff is really that awful looking, or if people are scanning it and turning up the contrast too high in Photoshop?
Thanks for sharing. Quick question: where and how did you get the film developed and scanned?
I mean the more or less properly scanned version. People do seem to scan it awfully though, the high-contrast examples aren't the film's fault. And it's actually iso 123.5, so the marketing team did shoot Harman in the foot making consumers underexpose an already imperfect film by almost a stop. When I get my rolls I'll post it scanned as if it was DS 4, and I'll experiment with processing a bit to try and see what works the best(basically what you had to do with each batch of Svema, except no datasheets).
That they got this far in just 12 months is difficult to understate. And for everyone getting terribly upset about contrast and colour reproduction, go watch the video that has the interview with the Harman photo engineers/ chemists - one of them literally states that the next job will be to sort the masking and anti-halation.
I don't see how I could optically print this stuff. I wonder if I sandwiched a piece of blank processed Portra to pick up the orange base if this would make it easier to print??
I think that in the hands of a skilled person scanning and adjusting in Photoshop one could get some nice pictures.
We shall see.
That's just a tool. Film like this is for art, or at least "arty" images. No one will be shooting advertising on this stuff where it has to match the product. I'm eager to try it.Thanks both, George and Flighter, for your replies. Clearly I live on a different planet. Here's another thought I have just had. I have a dentist's appointment on Monday where the use of a drill may be required but I have no desire that it be of the vintage when drills were driven by a series of slow moving loops of wire as I am old enough to have experienced those as well
pentaxuser
I just ordered some through Freestyle.
Their email advert had sample photos with extreme contrast & color saturation...WAY more than jemzyboz's images.
I suspect there is a lot of variation with exposure and post processing.
And it's actually iso 123.5, so the marketing team did shoot Harman in the foot making consumers underexpose
Masking is not something, where you just add another layer or one more ingredient to an existing one. If they want masking, they'd need to come up with an entire set of new dye couplers, and a much more complicated one, too. Isn't it a bit late in the game to change the dye couplers? Anti halation makes a lot more sense, since it's just another layer, although even that may be hard if they are constrained for max number of layers ...
And all that just to make some measurebators happy, and to break the character of this film?
Oh wow. Please share those Negafix profiles when you get that done. I would appreciate that so much!
Maybe I’m old school, but when did it become the norm to release your R&D ‘failures’ for profit to fund future R&D? In my mind, A respected company such as Harman has taken a hit for putting out such an inferior product. Even Adox, while claiming Color Mission was a step to a final product, released a very polished step, that could actually stand on its own, albeit slightly grainy.
I’ve always placed Harmon up there in the top tier with Kodak and Fuji. Would they have put out something before it was perfected, even with clams of “Isn’t this cool?” or “Isn’t this Funky?” No. So no thank you, I can buy a roll of far superior Gold or Fuji for less than the price of Phoenix.
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