Film Ferrania - Developments from October 2023 onward

[flavio81]

Unfortunately right at the bottom of the page it says "This product is produced using Eastman 5294 color reversal film"

Also known as ... Ektachrome 100D!

 

[thinkbrown]

Also known as ... Ektachrome 100D!

Yup. All the non-harman Ilford stuff is just rebranded orwo or Kodak afaik.

 

[brbo]

Why do you find it so hard to believe? Only because you never saw a box that said "Ferrania "?

The Kodak - Fuji monopoly/duopoly case was widely debated throughout late 80s and 90s (just one example). Never ever did Ferrania (nor Ferrania/3M) enter the debate. You can guess why.

You are, of course, encouraged to come up with any half credible link to support that Ferrania was at anytime anywhere near to being largest C-41 manufacturer in the world. Sorry, but that claim has all the "Pentax 17 camera accounting for 20% of entire Ricoh's revenue" vibe. "Ferrania being world's largest C-41 manufacturer" statement probably started as something like "Ferrania was largest white-label colour film manufacturer in Europe" and then morphed into this. Frankly, it's quite absurd that this is taken seriously on Photrio.

 

[cmacd123]

One needs to remember that 3M was a serious company, for example in magnetic tape production they were the absolute best in manufacturing quality. When they bought Ferrania they probably would have ensured to create a quality product, even if it was for a low cost tier.

And According to one dealer in used reel to reel tape, 3M did make Scotch" audio tape at Ferrania for the European market, and in a joint venture with sumoto for the Japan Market.

Scotch Italy 203 Dynarange Reel Tape, LP, 7″ Reel, 1800 ft, Plastic Box

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[cmacd123]

I don't think we should underestimate just how much film Ferrania was cranking out in those days. They were supplying a lot of those huge labs across Europe and certainly for a time they were supplying Wal-Mart in the USA too. Goodness knows who else....I mean, do we know who made Kirkland film for Costco?

Kmart and Sears (before they combined) also both sold 3M colour film in North america. 3M also was a big conumer mass market photofinisher, and they would print your memories on un-named ferrania paper.

3M also sold microfilm, and dry silver print paper for microfilm. the dry silver paper I used was marked USA, but the film was likly sourced at 3M italy.

 

[qqphot]

Unfortunately right at the bottom of the page it says "This product is produced using Eastman 5294 color reversal film"

This seems bizarre to me and I can't think of why they'd do this. Just to try to stake out some territory in the color film market, such as it is?

 

[aw614]

I do believe "target" branded film was also 3m/ferrania. I shot a few expired rolls at the beginning of the pandemic that I picked up on offerup

 

[flavio81]

The Kodak - Fuji monopoly/duopoly case was widely debated throughout late 80s and 90s (just one example). Never ever did Ferrania (nor Ferrania/3M) enter the debate. You can guess why.

What kind of argument is that?

You present a paper that compares Kodak versus Fuji. Does this mean those were the only two manufacturers of color film? No.

"Ferrania being world's largest C-41 manufacturer" statement probably started as something like "Ferrania was largest white-label colour film manufacturer in Europe"

I guess Wal-mart is located in Europe, then? /s

It seems you never saw off-label film, then. There was a ton of off-label film, everywhere.