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Or in other words... you just had to be there.

(Don't you hate that kind of response?)
 

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And as for magenta, a former member here asserted that our best known resident photographic engineer was wrong, and magenta actually doesn't exist.
 

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Somewhat OT but related: While I don't agree with your statement, I do have an issue here... but it's definitely not with nudes in the APUG gallery. My issue is with my HOME ISP that is blocking websites. They're CENSORING what sites I can visit. I complain but they never reply to me. They know they are the single viable high-speed option anyone in this rural area has so they force their puritanical censorship on us all. It's either that or they're trying to save bandwidth. Either way, they're controlling and cheated their customers. So one day my ISP may ban APUG as a site that hosts nude photos. But I'd NEVER support their attempts at censorship. Okay... now I've worked myself up and am steaming angry at my ISP.

Don't you have bi-directional* satellite internet connections? You don't need to be physically connected to an internet service provider to have broadband access.

Here in Italy I have a friend who lives somehow "in the countryside" (not what an American would think when he thinks countryside. Let's say, a small centre with no cable high-speed provider) and he installed this bi-directional satellite device at basically the same cost of a normal internet connection. There is an upper bandwidth limit but is very large.

* Bi-directional. Old type satellite connection required a phone line for the upload. Satellite was used only for download. Internet connections need constant bi-directional link so one had to keep his phone line engaged (or use his ADSL upload stream in any case) in order to use the satellite stream. Modern systems allow upload by satellite and can be used in the middle of nowhere.
 

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Everyone keeps talking about the "deleted" and "magenta" thread...

Can someone let me in on the joke? E feel like magenta is a reference to ortho vs pan film?

A member, presumably during one of those interminable technical discussions, argued that magenta is not a colour. He certainly did not mean there isn't a colour that people call magenta. He was certainly talking about primary colours*, colour theory, and something like that. Nominalistic quarrels are uninteresting in any case. This particular quarrel was probably originated by one of those long thread where everything becomes object for specious distinctions. It's, again, "human behaviour".

* magenta is a primary colour in subtractive synthesis so he must have actually meant something different.
 

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A member, presumably during one of those interminable technical discussions, argued that magenta is not a colour. He certainly did not mean there isn't a colour that people call magenta. He was certainly talking about primary colours*, colour theory, and something like that. Nominalistic quarrels are uninteresting in any case. This particular quarrel was probably originated by one of those long thread where everything becomes object for specious distinctions. It's, again, "human behaviour".

* magenta is a primary colour in subtractive synthesis so he must have actually meant something different.

Gotcha, thanks all who answered, I would have retorted with a response that "yellow" is actually the color that doesn't exist... Which is at least to some extent more true haha ;-p just to start a new ridiculous argument haha (I'm trouble).


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It was always my understanding that brown is the color that does not exist.
 

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We are in the age of hyper communication and censorship of the World Wide Web is no longer possible with both words and images.
 

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You'd think the title of this thread was 'Christina Aguilera or Kim Kardashian?"
 

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It was always my understanding that brown is the color that does not exist.

Of course it does, just check your shorts.:smile:

Pink exists, you can even hear it! just tune an FM reciever between stations. You can hear brown, too. See above.

Black isn't a color, so it's a moot point. Except on Schwartz Freitag.
 

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If you put any color into a box and seal it, is it really that color? Or is it both a color and a non-color? Is it a dead color or an alive color? A muted or vibrant color?

This should be moved to he philosophy section haha


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If you put any color into a box and seal it, is it really that color? Or is it both a color and a non-color? Is it a dead color or an alive color? A muted or vibrant color?

This should be moved to he philosophy section haha


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It's whatever it was when you put it in the box.
 

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It's whatever it was when you put it in the box.

Depends on the base. Sometimes it'll turn white over time and then when exposed to light it will go green :D
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If you put a colour in a box and FedEx it, by the time it crosses the Atlantic it will be a color.
 

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It's whatever it was when you put it in the box.

Well, the idea is that you don't take it out of the box, it's a paradox I set it up wrong, it should be...

If you leave an unexposed piece of film in a light proof box, but put a lightbulb inside on a timer that will go off randomly over the next 50 years and you leave the box outside in the sun, over the course of 50 years the film can be both exposed or not exposed at the same time and we can't be sure so you have to think of the film as both exposed and unexposed in the same instance. So it's a paradox. Sure you can add, is the film exposed as magenta or yellow or brown if you want, by saying there are 2 lightbulbs that are coated in red/yellow and you don't know which one has gone off if any or both so the film can be thought of as both unexposed/exposed/red/yellow/brown all at once :smile:

I think I just blew my own mind! My paradox is even better than Schrödinger's Cat! :whistling:


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Oh, here it comes, "think of the children!" Sorry, i dont buy it. In my opinion parents are responsible for their children. Even if a child stumbled upon access to the gallery (it's subscriber only) the signal to noise ratio for something to abuse ones self to is giant. Do you seriously think some kid is going to self flagellate to a tintype? And if they did, what of it? As you say in a later post, this isn't the era of finding a playboy in the bushes. Hell, I used to use the JC Penney catalogue. It's as old as time, and genuine human behavior that you cant stop. If my son spends his time hitting the APUG gallery I would be mightily impressed, particularly in light of what is available.

All the blather of this sort does simply one thing, it screws up children who then grow into screwed up repressed adults with huge hang ups about their bodies and their sexuality.

There is not enough agreeing in the world to express my agreement here.
 

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Well, the idea is that you don't take it out of the box, it's a paradox I set it up wrong, it should be...

If you leave an unexposed piece of film in a light proof box, but put a lightbulb inside on a timer that will go off randomly over the next 50 years and you leave the box outside in the sun, over the course of 50 years the film can be both exposed or not exposed at the same time and we can't be sure so you have to think of the film as both exposed and unexposed in the same instance. So it's a paradox. Sure you can add, is the film exposed as magenta or yellow or brown if you want, by saying there are 2 lightbulbs that are coated in red/yellow and you don't know which one has gone off if any or both so the film can be thought of as both unexposed/exposed/red/yellow/brown all at once :smile:

I think I just blew my own mind! My paradox is even better than Schrödinger's Cat! :whistling:


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What powers the lightbulb? And why leave it in the sun if it's in a lightproof box?
 

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What powers the lightbulb? And why leave it in the sun if it's in a lightproof box?

A battery? And the sun adds a heat and radiation factor to the film's life expectancy.

It was a hypothetical it's not meant to be seriously analyzed, it was a bad "smart" mans joke...


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A battery? And the sun adds a heat and radiation factor to the film's life expectancy.

It was a hypothetical it's not meant to be seriously analyzed, it was a bad "smart" mans joke...


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What kind of battery keeps 50 years?

Oops. Sorry.:redface: (I can't help it, it's brain chemicals.:wink:)
 
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