Elizabeth II

[Cholentpot]

It doesn't mean we need to tolerate it, at any level. Whatever happened to manners?

We're online talking about a very public figure. I'll save my manners for when I sit down to dinner and try to figure out which fork to use and when.

 

[Eric Rose]

Ok then how about civility?

 

[MattKing]

We're online talking about a very public figure. I'll save my manners for when I sit down to dinner and try to figure out which fork to use and when.

I was going to start with the phrase "No offense, but ..." and then realized the irony.
Manners ought to be employed whenever you interact with other people - including the other people on an internet forum. It is completely possible to be both well mannered and critical of a person's actions, an idea, a principle or ann institution at the same time.

 

[albada]

Somehow the politeness disappeared south of the southern Canadian border.

It's good to hear that civility and politeness are still alive and well in Canada, the UK, and Iowa.
Unlike most leaders in the world, Her Majesty was worthy of the honor being expressed.

 

[foc]

I am not an admirer of the British Royal Family but the late Queen Elizabeth II was much loved and all I can say to Her admires is to offer my sympathies and that I am sorry for your loss.

The late Queen visited the Republic of Ireland in 2011, the first British Monarch to do so since Irish independence from Great Britain in 1922. It signified a healing of the troubled past we shared.
There were many poignant moments during the visit and the Queen even spoke "cúpla focal" (a few words of Irish/Gaelic).
The warmth the Queen showed during Her visit and the warmth shown to her by the public is still remembered to this day.

 

[Cholentpot]

Ok then how about civility?

We have a Civil War. Wasn't very civil.

 

[benjiboy]

The queue to see her late majesty lying in state is now five miles long, she was really beloved by her subjects.

 

[Andrew O'Neill]

We have a Civil War. Wasn't very civil.

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[gone]

If you're talking about the U.S., it was a war between the states. It was never a civil war as the South had no ability and no intention of occupying the North, and never made any statements of such. But no war is a good war, I don't care whose side someone is on.

Royality seems to be of a past time, although a wise and benevolent king or queen is surely better than a tyrant that's elected by it's people. Manners though, those very important. That's what leads people into big trouble.

It was drilled into us at every level of our development in the American South, and down there you'll find people that will get in your face if you're rude or discourteous to them, their friends, co-workers or their family. It's just not acceptable, period, although an apology will clear things up. But even if someone is fighting mad, there's limits to what should be said. In a sense, what we don't say is more important than what we do say.

 

[MattKing]

We have a Civil War. Wasn't very civil.

(120 oops) 220 or so years after England had theirs. They moved on...

 

[BrianShaw]

120 or so years after England had theirs. They moved on...

Possibly…. And it took multiple attempts to get it right.

In the North of England the rivalry of The War of The Roses is still somewhat apparent.

But this has nothing to do with EIIR and only serves to fertilize a troll.

 

[Sirius Glass]

If you're talking about the U.S., it was a war between the states. It was never a civil war as the South had no ability and no intention of occupying the North, and never made any statements of such. But no war is a good war, I don't care whose side someone is on.

Royality seems to be of a past time, although a wise and benevolent king or queen is surely better than a tyrant that's elected by it's people. Manners though, those very important. That's what leads people into big trouble.

It was drilled into us at every level of our development in the American South, and down there you'll find people that will get in your face if you're rude or discourteous to them, their friends, co-workers or their family. It's just not acceptable, period, although an apology will clear things up. But even if someone is fighting mad, there's limits to what should be said. In a sense, what we don't say is more important than what we do say.

It was the Civil War. It was never the war between the states because the losers do not get to name the war and because the term you used was part of an after the fact white wash job poorly trying to hide the fact that the war was about slavery and the states right lie was invented later to sooth the pain of the widows of the dead violent overthrower of the country.

 

[MattKing]

Boy, are we straying now .......

 

[Eric Rose]

Why do we put up with this trash? Well I'm not going to. First step is to ignore this thread.

Again the malcontents ruin things for the rest of us.

Have at'er boys!! Go ahead and play in the sand box by yourselves.

 

[Sean]

Closing this one as it can't seem to stay on topic. It's unfortunate that any thread with the slightest potential to veer into politics goes this way (or shows all the signs it's about to go wrong). We have a ban on political threads, and we don't like to lock 'potentially political' threads, but it often ends up that way once they go off the rails.