Ektachrome E100 test rolls are OUT

[BrianShaw]

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PE

I think a little known or forgotten fact is that anyone can request membership. I just did but really hope I’m not accepted into that club.

 

[BrianShaw]

I think a little known or forgotten fact is that anyone can request membership. I just did but really hope I’m not accepted into that club.

Damn... too late.

 

[BradS]

Perhaps the people of a Photrio are just more intense analytical thinkers than those of other forums. That, for me, is a very positive attribute. It’s amazing how intolerant some folks are of opinions they don’t share and make it very personal. That, for me, is a very negative attribute that amounts to nothing more than bullying and a gang mentality. I thought I saw the last of that when I transitioned from Jr High into Senior High but I guess not! It may not be a matter of impatience but more a matter of seeking sufficient information beyond the cute marketing blurbs to understand both the process and where Kodak really is in that process. Perhaps it’s also a matter of missed “deadlines”... as a project manager that’s a red flag for me and makes me wonder (not worry, fret, or criticize) about the real status. Honestly... they can take as long as they want with a niche product for a niche user community. If push came to shove I’d rather see them ignore us and focus on a commercial base that will boost their corporate viability so the products I find more useful (Portra) is not risked.

Strongly agree.

 

[MattKing]

I'm away for a couple of days, and look what I missed!
For those who are full of doubts, will you be happy or sad if you are proved wrong?
And for those who are full of optimism, I hope you are right, but would suggest caution.
The most important thing though about Kodak's foray back into Ektachrome might just be that the "process" of reviving it will, if successful, pay dividends in the entire world of Kodak film products.
Revival of P3200 wasn't nearly as complex as this must be.

 

[OzJohn]

So I've perused all 104 posts in this thread hoping to learn that at least someone on Photrio is participating in the trial of the "new" Ektachrome. But it seems no one has been so chosen or if they have, they are are not sharing it here. That's influence.

 

[MattKing]

So I've perused all 104 posts in this thread hoping to learn that at least someone on Photrio is participating in the trial of the "new" Ektachrome. But it seems no one has been so chosen or if they have, they are are not sharing it here. That's influence.

I don't know that there are a lot of high volume transparency film users here on Photrio. And in particular, high volume users with commercial or marketing connections.

 

[Poisson Du Jour]

I don't know that there are a lot of high volume transparency film users here on Photrio.

Oh, there are. Just that we use Fujifilm products!

 

[MattKing]

Oh, there are. Just that we use Fujifilm products!

I said a lot .
I expect as well that Kodak is probably using US shooters to beta test.

 

[Poisson Du Jour]

So I've perused all 104 posts in this thread hoping to learn that at least someone on Photrio is participating in the trial of the "new" Ektachrome. But it seems no one has been so chosen or if they have, they are are not sharing it here. That's influence.

Photrio is not the only place to learn about or of β-testers of the E100 film. Many can be contacted directly through and followed on, Instagram (Kodak Professional) and/or their own blogs/websites. The testers are not by any means restricted to, nor chosen solely by Kodak, to the USA. There is quite a global representation there in the ranks: Australia and New Zealand too.

 

[Poisson Du Jour]

I don't know that there are a lot of high volume transparency film users here on Photrio. And in particular, high volume users with commercial or marketing connections.

A lot or a little (many more unseen, unknown outside of Photrio), they're still all using Fuji...

 

[MattKing]

I guess I'm the exception.
My favourite transparency films are still Kodak films. I still have a reasonable amount of frozen 120 E100G, although my favourite of the recent emulsions remains E100GX.
I should sell the big batch of frozen Fuji 35mm E6 film that I was given a couple of years ago.

 

[Poisson Du Jour]

I guess I'm the exception.
My favourite transparency films are still Kodak films. I still have a reasonable amount of frozen 120 E100G, although my favourite of the recent emulsions remains E100GX.
I should sell the big batch of frozen Fuji 35mm E6 film that I was given a couple of years ago.

We all have our favourites.
I may be more widely known for devotion to Fujifilm, but if Kodak's E6 products had, in the past been more widely available, I would have used them alongside my usual products. Unfortunately Kodak's transparency stocks in 35mm, 120 or even 4x5 haven't been seen here in Australia for years now (they kind of did a vanishing act around the same time as Kodak exiting Australia). I have only a vague recollection of noticing a film called E100G, and nothing else since testing E100V and E100VS in August 2004 — there are two rolls of E100VS remaining in the deep freeze which I would like to compare against the new E100 when it is released to retail.

I sincerely hope that Kodak does well with the 35mm release and sees fit after a long-ish trial and evaluation period to continue with cooking up the film in 120 and even 4x5 formats. It's a long shot, but touch-wood, it could happen.

 

[Ai Print]

Perhaps the people of a Photrio are just more intense analytical thinkers than those of other forums. That, for me, is a very positive attribute. It’s amazing how intolerant some folks are of opinions they don’t share and make it very personal. That, for me, is a very negative attribute that amounts to nothing more than bullying and a gang mentality. I thought I saw the last of that when I transitioned from Jr High into Senior High but I guess not! It may not be a matter of impatience but more a matter of seeking sufficient information beyond the cute marketing blurbs to understand both the process and where Kodak really is in that process. Perhaps it’s also a matter of missed “deadlines”... as a project manager that’s a red flag for me and makes me wonder (not worry, fret, or criticize) about the real status. Honestly... they can take as long as they want with a niche product for a niche user community. If push came to shove I’d rather see them ignore us and focus on s commercial base that will boost their corporate viability so the products I find more useful (Portra) is not risked.

It’s ok to be critical, but the delivery has to be somewhat more restrained or at least considered because of how ineffective the internet is at human nuance. So toss the analog equivalence of Alex Jones from “Kodak Wars” into the mix and it gets pretty damn off putting to most folks on here and once and awhile, I feel like calling it out. Time and time again this person stirs the pot unlike any other, surely even you must tire of that approach, right?

I generally stay out of these toxic tirades many seem to really put a lot of time and energy into because I see nothing but good things coming from being patient and empathetic. That is especially true of Kodak because I very much depend on them for my livelihood and I just can’t seem to shake the pride I feel in supporting them through thick and thin.

To me that is just good business and good living.

 

[Ste_S]

Looking forward to seeing some of the slides shot with Ektachrome. Are the recipients of the blocks allowed to post scans on Instagram etc ?

 

[Poisson Du Jour]

Looking forward to seeing some of the slides shot with Ektachrome. Are the recipients of the blocks allowed to post scans on Instagram etc ?

There is no restriction of where the testers' results can be posted: Instagram, Facebook, their own blogs, websites, other photography-related websites...especially Kodak! The pics will come, just give them plenty of time. They have to find a place for E6 processing and then go through the vetting. There are a few testers on Photo.net, and likely PetaPixel will corral somebody too.

Instagram photos viewed on mobile phones are usually garishly highly saturated. It is best to view Instagram on a PC
[ instagram.com] for a more realistic, but still somewhat quite detached (and always square) representation of images, and even then, there will be a vast variety of hits and misses reflecting the experience of individual testers. Portraiture, landscape, sports, pets/animals and sports, among many others will all be offering something.

 

[RattyMouse]

Strongly agree.

Likewise.

 

[BrianShaw]

There is no restriction of where the testers' results can be posted: Instagram, Facebook, their own blogs, websites, other photography-related websites...especially Kodak! The pics will come, just give them plenty of time. They have to find a place for E6 processing and then go through the vetting. There are a few testers on Photo.net, and likely PetaPixel will corral somebody too.

Instagram photos viewed on mobile phones are usually garishly highly saturated. It is best to view Instagram on a PC
[ instagram.com] for a more realistic, but still somewhat quite detached (and always square) representation of images, and even then, there will be a vast variety of hits and misses reflecting the experience of individual testers. Portraiture, landscape, sports, pets/animals and sports, among many others will all be offering something.

So you are one? You have some of our new film?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/They_Are_Among_Us

 

[zen_zanon]

I guess I'm the exception.
My favourite transparency films are still Kodak films. I still have a reasonable amount of frozen 120 E100G, although my favourite of the recent emulsions remains E100GX.
I should sell the big batch of frozen Fuji 35mm E6 film that I was given a couple of years ago.

Right there with you. If the new E100 matches or exceeds Provia 100F's reciprocity characteristics I'll potentially sell off the 100 or so frozen rolls of Provia I have.

 

[ME Super]

I'm eagerly awaiting the release of Ektachrome E100. It won't replace my Fuji Velvia 50, but it'll be good to be able to shoot Kodak transparency film again. Adjusted for inflation, I'm paying about the same per shot now with Fujichrome Provia 100F as I did Kodak Ektachrome 200 back in 1988. It's within about 8 cents per shot in 2018 USD using in-date Provia 100F. If I'm using the expired 5/18 Provia 100F that I paid $10/roll for, it's actually about a penny cheaper per shot in 2018 USD as it was in 1988.

 

[Sirius Glass]

At one time, Fuji took over the slide market and Kodak took over the color negative department. That helped both companies in the declining markets. Now that Fuji is reducing its slide film selection which has disappointed many, fortunately Kodak is stepping back in. Understandably Kodak is being careful to not release a product that is less than wonderful, so patience and forbearance is needed.

 

[ME Super]

+1

 

[MattKing]

It all depends on motion picture film. E6 slides won't be enough.

 

[BrianShaw]

It all depends on motion picture film. E6 slides won't be enough.

Hasn't it always? At least, that was the impression I always had.

 

[faberryman]

Hasn't it always? At least, that was the impression I always had.

I am no expert, but I thought when a motion picture is shot on film, it is shot on Vision 3 negative film, scanned, and edited digitally. Cinematographers want the look of film, so they get it in the initial capture, and from that point everything is handled in the digital domain. Am I mistaken? Nobody is shooting E6 and the only ones likely to do so are students. Kodak plans a develop and scan program for them as well, right?

 

[RattyMouse]

Hasn't it always? At least, that was the impression I always had.

See post #17.