Back in the 1980s and 90s I was very positive. But over time I’ve become entirely negative. Dang...
Ektachrome E100 test rolls are OUT
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My C-41 and RA-4 chemicals say made by Kodak Alaris ,China. I think Tetenal makes everything else for Kodak, (and looks like some of Ilford) Fuji Hunt is alive and well in Europe and the USA. Fuji may decide to kill off film, but that doesn't mean Fuji Hunt, which package all sorts of things, would need to die.
As clearly pointed out in this forum is will it be affordable and accessible. In the 40's my Dad had to mount his own slides, not sure why? ??
If the smaller labs could develop without mounting in 2x2 mounts that would make it much easier.
Alaris will need to establish a lab network, in the old days it took 2 first class stamps to post a pre-paid mailer.
If EK can stay in the business of making film, shouldn't be hard to get Alaris China, Fuji-Hunt, or Tetenal to produce chemistry.
As clearly pointed out in this forum is will it be affordable and accessible. In the 40's my Dad had to mount his own slides, not sure why? ??
If the smaller labs could develop without mounting in 2x2 mounts that would make it much easier.
Alaris will need to establish a lab network, in the old days it took 2 first class stamps to post a pre-paid mailer.
If EK can stay in the business of making film, shouldn't be hard to get Alaris China, Fuji-Hunt, or Tetenal to produce chemistry.
EDIT: IT WILL NEED TO BE AFFORDABLE AND ACCESSIBLE
And then the whine brigade complain and whinge that the manufacturers don't have any representatives here.
The one guy representing a company which really has made a superb effort to engage with us gets so much abuse and so many accusations of lying levelled at him that I am really surprised he's still here.
"I'll believe it when rolls appear in my mail box"....now I've read it all. And I am reminded why I eschewed these forums for months.
Oh well...
It's a niche product within a niche market. It will be what it will be. Writing in caps won't make it cheap or persuade your local convenience store to sell it.
It's hardly going to be difficult to buy it, when we all use the internet.
Kodak *have* said they will have film/process/scan packages for super 8 film when it comes. Whether they'll expand this to 135 and other formats is anyone's guess but we must remember that in the USA at least, Kodak once lost a lot of money in a court case which decided that offering film with processing included in the price was sharp practise.
Good day to you, SIr.
<invokes the "ignore" button for the first time in some 29 years on the internet>
I’m sorry you feel that way. It’s not quite that serious, but since you seem determined... Thank you, I hope it makes your life better. I know it has for me when I’ve put folks on ignore.
BTW, I first touched DARPANET in 1978 or so and have only recently put 3 people on ignore... interestingly all 3 on this forum. And I participate in a number of forums in some fairly diverse topics.
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I bet you do not have a shred of data to illustrate the representative film user and what they look like. Not one shred.
Actually, there would likely be more support on the forum if the marketing interaction was a bit more direct and less cryptic.
... and the nonstop whining about the “entitled whiners” is just as boring and unproductive as the whining.
And those still who do not even use E6 products, but decide a prolonged whinge is always needed.
Yes, it’s both recursive and contradictory at the same time.
That's an astonishingly presumptive statement - suffice to say I work daily with a wide spectrum of photographers & other artists who use photography as part of their practice. Within that cohort, they generally conform with what Ilford & others have found in recent user surveys - a very significant percentage are younger (under 40), the gender balance is fairly even, and there is a broader ethnic diversity than this forum represents in terms of the most prolific posters. There was a recent-ish podcast interview with people from Ilford who were talking about their recent survey & the results they mentioned generally chimed much more with my experience than what the sociological appearance of this forum would suggest. I do however have far better and more profitable things to do with my time than carry out statistical analyses of this, so I am speaking purely from my own day-to-day experience.
Furthermore, most of those I work with actively avoid forums like this because of the attitudes and behaviour I highlighted in my earlier post, which can also manifest itself as a small-mindedness towards contemporary artistic practices, preferring instead to propagate endless threads about irrelevant technical hypotheses, despite Ron & others' best efforts to explain the actual science.
At the end of the day, I'm looking forward to using this film & to cross-processing it & seeing if it offers me something useful as a means of expression. That's what I'm more interested in.
If you have any old EPP around it works wonderfully even quite expired when exposed at ISO 100 and run through C41.
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That's anecdotal. Not data. Just as expected.
Most educational. What about E100VS?
Never tried that one, but the EPP is great. Age and the wrong process even gives it an orange fog that can act as a filter substitute for a mask. Quite remarkable.
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Weirdly enough, was scanning some EPP a couple of days ago for a client - just archive images from the 1980's, nothing involving cross-processing. They'd held up pretty well - properly processed at the time & appropriately stored since. Only expired films I have on hand are a couple of rolls of 220 TXP found at the back of a cupboard & about 8 rolls of deep frozen VPL from the mid-90's that were handed to me about 48 hours ago!
Whiners don't make photographs..they are too busy commenting or bitching negatively
Darn a new film is coming out and it is exciting to me
Darn a new film is coming out and it is exciting to me
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I'm excited.
Some day when I'm fat and wealthy I'll only shoot E-6 in 120 6x9. If I'm feeling cheap I'll shoot my Xpan or Widelux. I'll have Jeeves send it off to the druggist for processing and when I display the slideshow I'll have a live quartet. I'll allow my staff 15 minutes off to view the show of my latest travels to the corners of the earth.
I'll grow a walrus mustache.
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I don't see the big deal in processing E6. Anyone still shooting film should be capable of developing any roll film. I use the Fuji 5L kit from Freestyle . The Tetenal 3 bath works ok, not my 1st choice. I think Alaris will have a hard time with Ektachrome competing with Fujichrome unless it's priced at or below Fuji.
If this stuff is as expensive as the super 8 project there won't be volume to support it.
If this stuff is as expensive as the super 8 project there won't be volume to support it.
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