D76 versus ID11, Are they the same things ?

[Keith Tapscott.]

The picture in the link below shows an extra component in D-76. See post 50 in the link.

Alternate d76 formulas, worth trying?

I always found better tonal range with replenished developers better shadow and highlight details, un-replenished developer give harsher results in terms of contrast.. Ian Some films esp., Foma gives green color liquid after pre-wash. I don't know what dyes they are but I wonder whether they...

www.photrio.com

 

[koraks]

The picture in the link below shows an extra component in D-76.

It just shows a normal borate buffer system. These are the kind of differences @ADOX Fotoimpex referred to earlier: there are differences in what the manufacturer puts into the bag, but that doesn't mean there's the same difference once everything has gone into solution. The end point is virtually the same.

 

[Keith Tapscott.]

It's probably why some people prefer to mix from scratch.

 

[Don_ih]

It's probably why some people prefer to mix from scratch.

The main reason to mix from scratch is that it's a whole lot cheaper. Also, if you mix your own, you can also mix the replenisher that you can no longer buy.

 

[koraks]

To add, for me personally the attractiveness in mixing my own developers is to have control over the freshness of the developer. I.e. the dry ingredients generally store indefinitely so I know I can always work with 100% fresh developer that will therefore perform perfectly predictably.

 

[Don_ih]

Yeah, there are many reasons to mix your own - not least of which is being able to mix up as much as you need for the time.

 

[Milpool]

Yeah, there are many reasons to mix your own - not least of which is being able to mix up as much as you need for the time.

Right, but do you mix D-76 or ID-11?

 

[Alan Edward Klein]

How about Clayton F76+ ??

 

[John Wiegerink]

How about Clayton F76+ ??

I think I read that Clayton F76+ is not the same as Kodaks D-76, but don't know for sure.

 

[Milpool]

I think I read that Clayton F76+ is not the same as Kodaks D-76, but don't know for sure.

If we’re talking formulas/ingredients it’s not the same as F-76+ is based on Phenidone rather than metol, has a different pH/alkali etc. However that doesn’t mean it produces different results than D-76. Since it was formulated to more or less replicate the working characteristics of D-76 the results might be indistinguishable.

 

[Richard Jepsen]

What I want to know is

1. Does D/76/ID-11 PH still rise after 6 weeks or so?
2. Did Adox D76 fix the PH rise?

 

[miha]

Reading this, I think I’ll just buy Rodinal.

 

[Milpool]

Reading this, I think I’ll just buy Rodinal.

Which version of Rodinal?

 

[miha]

The one that comes without a 12-page thread

 

[John Wiegerink]

The one that comes without a 12-page thread

 

[Alex Benjamin]

The one that comes without a 12-page thread

Ha! Wait until you say you'll be doing stand development in it....

 

[miha]

Ha! Wait until you say you'll be doing stand development in it....

Please… although I’m a William Mortensen fan, I don’t do stand, my film needs drama.