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Better? I dont think so. No digital camera, nor any software simulation looks as beautiful as Fuji 400H. Or Kodak Ektar.
I shoot color film strictly for the aesthetics. Digital looks completely sterile in comparison. And even if the film simulations worked, I have no interest in "simulating" what I can do on my own.
Fuji Film decided to make an all out assault on the North American market, The LA olympics were and the blimp were just one aspect of that . This was Many Many years before the instax cameras were even thought of.
I'd leave this one to the experts!but,our local photo club is rapidly growing with young people, many of which are putting their smart phones down and started cleaning Dad's old analog SLR.I've noticed a couple of things while looking at this sight and film manufacturing websites and got me thinking.
I don't think for a minute that these companies don't want to succeed but it almost seems like they don't. In order for film to remain around we need people to buy it. People like us who are enthusiast will buy it no matter what. What we need is to get new people interested in it. Young people. So how do you get young people involved now that it might not be taught in school anymore or their parents take pictures with their iPhone or a digital camera. So that is out. I'd say you create a marketing strategy that took in mind millennials on down. Right now I see a hodgepodge of bad ideas and some good.
Here is a breakdown:
Kodak has just relaunched a film, an analog magazine (whatever that means) and numerous apps. Kodak Alaris also has a website. The problem is that the apps and the website are basically garbage. There is some useful info on it but you have to search to find it. The website/apps mostly proclaims how awesome Kodak is and everyone else is a bunch of schmoes. For all the faults that we push on young people their redeeming quality is that they base their views on facts. Tell me what it does and how I can use it. For a company that sells darkroom chemistry, all they give you is the data sheet. You would think there would be a how to darkroom. What do I need to set up a darkroom? Etc. Imagine if a company like Kodak set up a website with video tutorials on darkroom use? They have the money, knowledge, and technique to do a great job.
The magazine is alright but seems like a circle jerk of how great analog over digital is. Duh, we know this.
Foma has a website and is even more bare bones than Kodak although it is easier to find what info you need. They have no app.
Ilford has a great website. You can get info about products, data sheets, and not only that...they have a learning section, gallery section, meet up section. They sponsor contests. I wish I lived in UK just to have a company that actually still care about the film they sell. Take note Kodak. It would be awesome if they had video tutorials and an app. That is the key to exposing younger people to this but compared to everyone else this is the The David of film manufacturing websites.
Polaroid has a great website for commerce. They sell their film, new cameras, and old refurbished cameras. Easy to use and they don't need tutorials because it is a Polaroid. The do have a digital magazine that talks more about film than Kodak's does. If I was them, I would have people to go around to bars, parks, schools, and hand out cameras and watch people go nuts. A selfie that you can hang on the fridge. Boom...there is your catchphrase.
This criticism can also be said of the online retailers. You want your company to make money? Update your websites, have tutorials, basic darkroom checklist make sure nothing is a 404.
All of this is just me thinking out loud. Would love to hear people's thoughts.
... show absolutely fantastic work. And not so much technically perfect work but photographs that exude vision and a feel that makes a person almost not care what it was made with, it just pulls them in and their heart stops. Then when they go about the forensics to see how it was made and they find out it was film...it's a holy sh_t moment...
it's also the distribution
When I first joined this forum, I was surprised that I did not see people who work at these companies participating regularly in the community.
My first forum was a PbNation (paintball), and it's full of people who actually work at the manufacturers.
We got here some fellows that are/were affiliated to the photochemical industry. One of the former owners of Harman (Ilford Photo) was even daily logged-in at Apug.
However, the smaller the company the less time remains for Apug, the more if one even has an own, company forum site.
I totally agree with the distribution problem. Not to be the bearer of bad news but I found a darkroom supply guy in New Orleans and he said the Ilford distributor just filed for bankruptcy protection.
There is a lot more profit margin in Fiat cars, service or accessories than there is in film manufacturing.Now that you brought it up, it is kind of weird. I am on the Fiat forum and all the vendors post there not just trying to sell stuff but to help owners out.
Just happened to me today:All the film manufacturer is needed is easy accessible data sheets for each film. Plus, some links to the dedicated to particular film groups on Flickr, FB. And some case studies.
This is it. Doable by single person. The real marketing is done on photo forums. It is from where we know what Foma 400 is not 400 film, what some Kodak 120 film has problems with backing and so on.
Same single person could deal with it as well.
Just happened to me today:
- Wanted to check reciprocity for Ilford film (Fp4) on the go, just to find out it doesn't open on a current iPhone.
Just shows an empty page.What happens when you try to open the datasheet pdf? Do you have Adobe Acrobat installed on your phone?
Just tested it on 2 different Macs (current macOS), not working in Safari. I need to use Firefox or Chrome to access the technical data sheet and/or film processing chart....but using Safari on a Mac is OK....
Just tested it on 2 different Macs (current macOS), not working in Safari. I need to use Firefox or Chrome to access the technical data sheet and/or film processing chart.
Just tested it on 2 different Macs (current macOS), not working in Safari. I need to use Firefox or Chrome to access the technical data sheet and/or film processing chart.
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