CART HELP PLEASE!

[gerryyaum]

Hopefully I am not asking anyone here to repeat themselves, could not find anything online so am asking for "ULF Camera Gear Cart Help".

I have finally entered the world of ULF cameras and photography. I received my Chamonix 16x20 camera from Shanghai yesterday. I will acquire everything else that is required (lots!) in the next few months and start shooting in the summer. My question is this:

Can anyone out their in APUG land help me with figuring out the best cart system to carry everything? Either something that can be built or something that can be adapted? Golf carts, baby strollers? something else that will work? Designs for a self built cart? I am off to Thailand again in 3 weeks and might be able to get something built there, if I had an idea what the heck to tell the builder! I want something big enough to carry the 16x20, tripod, holders and other goodies. I was thinking of something that I could push might be better than pulling with bigger all terrain wheels (I shoot in places that have rough basic roads). If all of that is not complicated enough I would like something that I can fold up reasonably small to take on Asian buses!

To much to ask? Impossible? Any and all suggestions would be so helpful. Thanks all. Gerry

For fun you might enjoy this video, me yesterday doing a very hyper and happy UNBOXING of the Chamonix 16x20 that I have since named (yes named!) MAY LEE.

 

[removed account4]

hi gerry
i am building something like a dense, corrugated cardboard yukka pack for my camera
not sure if is something you can deal with but it will be simple, and cost effective.
otherwise i have a big bin everything is in.

congratulations on your new camera, have fun feeding the beast!
john

 

[Sirius Glass]

See this thread http://www.largeformatphotography.i...Based-on-an-Old-Golf-Cart&highlight=golf+cart in Large Format Photography Forum.

 

[RobC]

one of these should do you nicely:

http://www.kawasaki.co.uk/en/produc...50XQsJCwwODlAOUFtdXF8LWVBcClwOWFoKDFpYCl9dCww

or alternatively one of these

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mule

 

[Jim Noel]

I use a collapsible wagon with large pivoting wheels to carry my 7x17 and 8x10 plus accessories.

 

[John Koehrer]

A three wheeled baby jogger would work. Three decent sized tires, aluminum and typically with a fabric seat.
If you need larger than a single, there are setups that seat two children side by side. That would most
likely work out better for you.
When you start talking about wooden carts weight builds up really quickly.
Bamboo could be a lightweight alternative though.

 

[gerryyaum]

A three wheeled baby jogger would work. Three decent sized tires, aluminum and typically with a fabric seat.
If you need larger than a single, there are setups that seat two children side by side. That would most
likely work out better for you.
When you start talking about wooden carts weight builds up really quickly.
Bamboo could be a lightweight alternative though.

Been looking to find one of these for years, not sure which would work best. If I get a case to carry the gear in everything might weigh in at 100lbs, too much for most baby carriages I think.

Thanks for your suggestion

 

[gerryyaum]

hi gerry
i am building something like a dense, corrugated cardboard yukka pack for my camera
not sure if is something you can deal with but it will be simple, and cost effective.
otherwise i have a big bin everything is in.

congratulations on your new camera, have fun feeding the beast!
john

Thanks...its lots of fun

 

[gerryyaum]

See this thread http://www.largeformatphotography.i...Based-on-an-Old-Golf-Cart&highlight=golf+cart in Large Format Photography Forum.

Thanks for the link

 

[gerryyaum]

I use a collapsible wagon with large pivoting wheels to carry my 7x17 and 8x10 plus accessories.

hmm..saw one at Costco last week but not big enough for my needs, would work great with the 8x10 thou!

Thanks Gerry

 

[gerryyaum]

one of these should do you nicely:

http://www.kawasaki.co.uk/en/produc...50XQsJCwwODlAOUFtdXF8LWVBcClwOWFoKDFpYCl9dCww

or alternatively one of these

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mule

But how would I get it past the air line check in weight scale?

Thanks Gerry

 

[gerryyaum]

hi gerry
i am building something like a dense, corrugated cardboard yukka pack for my camera
not sure if is something you can deal with but it will be simple, and cost effective.
otherwise i have a big bin everything is in.

congratulations on your new camera, have fun feeding the beast!
john

Thinking...Adox, Ilford, Kodak films, thinking X-ray film, thinking Direct Positive paper (still learning what that is), thinking Wet Plate...

She (MAY LEE) will get plenty of food, will take good care of her!

Thanks Gerry

 

[gerryyaum]

After doing lots of google, found these yesterday, all possibles. The bottom 2 pics are dock carts (??) and collapsible. The top wagon can carry your house (800lbs) not sure how you fold it up and put in your car thou.

Anyway thought these might be of interest to others.

http://gerryyaum.blogspot.ca/2016/03/possible-carts.html

 

[RobC]

I just can't imagine bouncing a camera and lenses across some rough ground on a trolley.

didn't anyone ever tell you that if it's more than 10 paces from the road it's not worth photographing.

 

[Dr Croubie]

May or may not be suitable, but I saw a guy here who pours his own wet-plates in-situ, for that he converted an old mobile ice-cream trolley. Like this: http://turnkeyparlor.com/wp-content/uploads/ice-cream-push-carts.jpg
It had light-tight gloves in the side to do all the pouring in the ex-freezer-compartment. That got added onto with a space to put the tripod and camera, so it all just wheeled around nicely. Not sure how portable it would be offroad though.
Just did some image searching and instead came up with these, sort of a half-bicycle thing: http://www.indiamart.com/jasvir-industries/ice-cream-trolley.html

Actually, that's what would be perfect, a Bakfiets (I don't know the english name, that's what they are in dutch, basically means 'bucket bike').
Like these: http://bakfiets.nl/eng/modellen/ and these: Dead Link Removed (I'd suggest the Trike models, bit sturdier with a huge load offroad)

 

[juan]

I tried several kinds of carts and settled on a jogging baby stroller. A black C-1, Zone Vi heavy duty tripod, a dozen film holders and misc. stuff pushed 100 pounds with no trouble. The stroller has locks for the wheels, keeping it from running away. It provides a place to put stuff off the ground, and it is maneuverable.
You may find some easy modifications helpful.
Juan

 

[MattKing]

After doing lots of google, found these yesterday, all possibles. The bottom 2 pics are dock carts (??) and collapsible. The top wagon can carry your house (800lbs) not sure how you fold it up and put in your car thou.

Anyway thought these might be of interest to others.

http://gerryyaum.blogspot.ca/2016/03/possible-carts.html

Dock carts are what boaters use to move stuff from their vehicle, down the ramps, along the float and to the side or end of their boat.

They tend to be left exposed to the elements, which often involve salt air, so they are fairly rugged.

Being for boaters, they also tend to be expensive.

 

[OptiKen]

But how would I get it past the air line check in weight scale?

Thanks Gerry

Fill the tires with helium on the motorized one.
The other one is probably already full of gas.

 

[RobC]

or you could put some of these pegasus trainers on its hooves

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nike-Pegasu...=1457141772&sr=1-12&keywords=Nike+Air+Pegasus

 

[juan]

Someone on the largeformat forum years ago used llamas.
juan

 

[Tis Himself]

I don't shoot LF, but I wonder if the type of cart that letter carriers use could be adapted? They're collapsible and can carry quite a bit of weight. Just a thought.

 

[rmann]

Check this one out, solid bottom rated for 100 pounds, baby stroller or bike trailer - I have one and it works very well on rough ground. http://www.nordiccab.com/product/

Can be adapted wth a lot of accessories - folds into a very small size - base is molded plastic, not fabric, so it keeps a constant ground clearance.

They are no longer imported to USA, but I think they might still be sold in Canada. I got mine from a dealer in Canada.

 

[scheimfluger_77]

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or alternatively one of these

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mule

Yes this would have been W. H. Jackson's preferred vehicle.

 

[Soeren]

No advise or the like just a con gratulation with your new toy. That thing makes my 45F1 look like a pocket camera looks awesome

 

[jeffreythree]

First off, nice camera. A possible option to look at is a range cart that shooting competitors use. I have seen 2 and 3 wheeled versions. A cheap welding cart could also be good with a bit of modification.