Buying the same cameras/lenses that you have sold before

[Theo Sulphate]

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here goes my story...
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The upside in all this, of course, is the great pleasure I have had over the years in using some of this gear, and the future plans I have to eventually shoot off and process all the B&W and color films in my darkroom fridge and small freezer.
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I enjoyed your insightful posting and story. All's well that ends well, so being able to enjoy your hobby in retirement is what's important.

My very best friend is from Tasmania - a great place and good people.

 

[MattKing]

Your cameras are taking more space than her clothes, shoes and purses?

They take different space in different locations, and some of them (like my location light kit under the buffet and 4x5 enlarger) are awkward in both their shape and size. She is also quite reasonable when it comes to the amount of clothes, shoes and purses she acquires and keeps.
What can I say, we are both fortunate, and we both know it, but things aren't perfect!

 

[Leigh B]

I've done this a few times, usually involving a Nikon F3, which is my favorite camera.

I shoot all formats from half-frame 35mm (Tessina) to 8x10, so lots of items are of interest.
When I see one I want but can't afford, I sell one of my F3 cameras or motor drives to buy it.

Then later I replace the departed member of the family with a newer one, usually nicer.
I've not lost any significant amount of money in these dealings, yet.

- Leigh

 

[quixotic]

Haven't done it yet, but my worst case of seller's remorse involved a Mamiya M645 and a shift lens.

 

[Sirius Glass]

If wife/partner is against your hobby - he/she should be upgraded to ex-partner (ex-wife) asap.

+10,000

 

[railwayman3]

In posting what follows, I have assumed the OP referred to one's buying the same make and model of camera(s) one previously had but then sold, and not THE same camera, further down the track from having sold this camera, and (buying again) from the original buyer.

With this disclaimer, here goes my story.

Until the mid 1980s, I mostly bought one camera at a time and then sold it to buy another. A Yashica D, then a Rollei (still own it) in the '60s, Nikkormats in the '70s, more Rollei TLRs in the '80s. Then I got stuck into a fulltime career and photography suddenly became something I no longer did, not enough time/too tired/no motivation.

For about 30 years I bought excessively, made little or no use of the gear I bought (in more than one case, I did not even test the gear), held on to it for years but kept it in storage boxes, and then sold, only to buy the same all over again. Eventually this changed to just buy.

Now retired, I've considered this 'situation' at length, and I have decided my obsession with buying cameras came about as the direct result of being in my own full-time consultancy business of my own as a design architect. I disliked many of the projects I successfully bid on and had to complete,especially one office floor I entirely redid four times (for successive state governments) over 15 years including one contract in which I stripped down and again rebuilt the entire office which had never been used and had been left locked up for the entire period. When we were redoing one senior manager's office I found all the original documentation I had given the client at the closing of the previous redesign, in the boxes I had packed for the client, which had not been opened.

So I compensated by buying used camera gear (mostly off Ebay) which I never used but then put away. Psychologically I wonder if I was just replicating my frustrations with the clients by a sort of projection, by indulging in the same behavior in my own life?

After I retired in 2012 I did an extensive stocktake at home and found, among other things, 10 Nikkormat cameras in various degrees of usability, each with a 50mm lens, a great assortment of AI and AIS Nikkors, and an entire box of Nikon lens hoods, filters, cases, and assorted brand name gadjets. We won't go into the Hasselblads (one 500C, one 500CM, and THREE ELs, plus lenses, filters, hoods, finders, grips etc etc etc), nor the Rollei TLRs, which have always been my favorite cameras. Suffices to say I could have opened a well stocked secondhand camera shop, had I decided to start a new career in my sixties, but this I wisely resisted.

By then my partner was openly expressed sentiments of concern at my compulsive hoarding, and was delicately pressuring me to bite the bullet and DO SOMETHING about my camera gear hoarding. Which even I was ready to acknowledge had reached crisis proportions.

So I began downsizing and offloading. Now, almost five years later, I'm down to a reasonable collection of cameras and accessories I plan to use (at least one time) before I pass them on to new owners. All the Hasselblads have gone, also a few of the Nikkormats, almost all my saleable MF cameras, my two Fuji GA645s, and two of the Rolleis.

I shudder to think of the financial loss I incurred from all this impulsive buying. The Nikkormats cost me A$150-$180 each, as I acquired most of them at a time when they were in demand. The same cameras now fetch about $50-$60 on Ebay and with luck, a little more from private sales. Flogging off the 50mm lenses separately has cut my losses a little. A few lenses, like the mint 300 and the never used 80-200 AIS still in its original box with all its papers and even the original sale receipt, will bring in some extra money when I finally decide to part with them. The goal in all this sacrifice, or so I keep reminding myself, is to downsize, not to realise big profits.

It gave me new hope when I learned that modern Nikon D lenses, also E series lenses, can be used on Nikkormats. This means I can use all the D lenses I've accumulated - I won't say any more.

The upside in all this, of course, is the great pleasure I have had over the years in using some of this gear, and the future plans I have to eventually shoot off and process all the B&W and color films in my darkroom fridge and small freezer.

I realise all this may present me as somewhat of an extreme case, but some of it has been a pleasant way to help pass a lifetime, even if now at my age, lugging a 300mm (with a tripod) on a mountain trek in Tamania is more an ordeal than a pleasure.

All this to say, read and be warned. It is an easy trap to fall into, and many of us do.

Nothing wrong with any of that....if someone gets pleasure and interest from collecting cameras, rather than using them (and so long as it doesn't affect them or their family financially or otherwise), it's entirely their own choice. There are too many people in this world, often do-gooders and politicians, willing and keen to tell us what we should-or-should-not do (and often it's a case of "do as I say, not
as I do" ! )

 

[Old-N-Feeble]

Nothing wrong with any of that....if someone gets pleasure and interest from collecting cameras, rather than using them (and so long as it doesn't affect them or their family financially or otherwise), it's entirely their own choice. There are too many people in this world, often do-gooders and politicians, willing and keen to tell us what we should-or-should-not do (and often it's a case of "do as I say, not
as I do" ! )

Ha ha... right. There's a forum member who often posts things like "I actually USE my photo gear" as a disparaging remark to those who can't for some reason. You can collect photo gear if you want to. You only need keep yourself and family happy.

 

[MT ASCP]

In my late 20's I sold all my camera gear to satiate my wife's (now ex) need to allow me nothing. Also sold a nice revolver and pistol, MacIntosh/B&O/Tandberg audio gear, my BMW motorcycle and other things. At the time I regretted selling all of that but my one 'lingering' remorse is selling the loudspeakers my father built for me when I was a teenager. The wife said they're too big!! Plus, she hated music in the house. They were a Klipschorn folded horn design, sounded fantastic and were covered in a lovely Brazilian rosewood veneer. My more recent regrets have no emotional attachments but I'll never be able to replace them, especially at the prices I sold them.

Good thing you got rid of the wife! My X was pretty good about my stuff then one day she kept my stuff and got rid of me. Go figure?

 

[Sirius Glass]

In my late 20's I sold all my camera gear to satiate my wife's (now ex) need to allow me nothing. Also sold a nice revolver and pistol, MacIntosh/B&O/Tandberg audio gear, my BMW motorcycle and other things. At the time I regretted selling all of that but my one 'lingering' remorse is selling the loudspeakers my father built for me when I was a teenager. The wife said they're too big!! Plus, she hated music in the house. They were a Klipschorn folded horn design, sounded fantastic and were covered in a lovely Brazilian rosewood veneer. My more recent regrets have no emotional attachments but I'll never be able to replace them, especially at the prices I sold them.

Trading in my ex was the best thing I did for my children and myself. The newer models have lower mileage and require much less maintenance.

 

[Old-N-Feeble]

I haven't ridden since I jumped off the marriage train many years ago. I've been 'walking solo' ever since. Riding the rails and tunnels isn't worth the inevitable head-on collision.

 

[cooltouch]

So what's up with the present tense comment in your sig?

I've had more than one marriage that ended badly. The first one still gives me nightmares. Fortunately I found a woman who I can put up with and who puts up with me. Yeah, we fuss and fight, but we always get over it. I put up with her purses and shoes and clothes and she puts up with my cameras and guitars and motorcycles.

 

[Old-N-Feeble]

So what's up with the present tense comment in your sig?

It's just a joke. My ex was a PITA.

 

[Theo Sulphate]

...if someone gets pleasure and interest from collecting cameras ... (and so long as it doesn't affect them or their family financially or otherwise), it's entirely their own choice. ...

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There are too many people in this world, often do-gooders and politicians, willing and keen to tell us what we should-or-should-not do ...

I agree.

My house, my cars, and all my other toys are paid for. Of my many cameras, I enjoy the variety of camera designs, their viewfinders, lenses, their mechanisms, and the different ways they operate. Even though I work a regular 5-day week, I do use my cameras to make photos every week. Occasionally, I make a really nice photo. I don't begrudge anyone who has lots of cameras and appreciates them, whether they use them or not.

 

[one90guy]

I bought and sold more Yashica GSNs than I can hope to remember, don't have one now since finding the Canon P. Don't see ever selling the Canon. Also about 4 or 5 years ago sold my Nikon F4s and all my AF lens, wanted to get back to my manual roots Took me years to find the right F4s again, still have it. Only one AF lens, but a nice group of manual lens.

David

 

[carlostaiwan]

Nikkor 50mm f1.8D, I thought I would never need it after I started with DX and I sold it for almost nothing, after a few months I realized how much I like that lens, considering the price of course. With film, with full-frame, with DX, with a macro-adapter, portraits... I use it a lot

 

[David T T]

I sold my first 35mm camera, a Canon whose model # I've forgotten, and which I never used much, to buy my then high school age son a digital. He was shooting a lot of film and spending time he didn't have in the darkroom, when he had a demanding school and an amazing and very worthy girlfriend to attend to. When I got back into photography, I went right back to film and got a Rebel Ti for about $20, and eventually my beloved RB67 kit. I also use a pair of Olympus XAs.

I also sold my 50mm Sekor C lens for my RB because I was broke. I've replaced it as I never wanted to get rid of it. That camera and its lenses will go to the grave with me.

My son and his girlfriend parted ways, and he no longer shoots. Ah, life's journeys!

 

[Fire]

As a kid I had a M42 Praktica, which I sold to buy a bayonett Praktica, which I sold to buy a Minolta Dynax. That one got stolen and I went digital.

I have recently purchased a Praktica L (the bare bones, no metering one) and it brings fine memories.

In principle I try to avoid owning more cameras than I can shoot, but I made an exception with this one.

 

[Glen Diamond]

CANON A-1 -- that's the one I miss from all those I have sold, so maybe I might be tempted to get some decent FD lenses and an A-1.
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The Canon A-1 is the camera I used when I 1st joined a camera club and needed something for taking 35mm slide film with aperture priority.
I sold the A-1 when I got hoodwinked by the marketing machine into owning an EOS650, a camera that I hated and soon upgraded to an EOS5 - which I really enjoyed!
Don't need to rush into it right now though as I mainly have Nikon gear at the moment (and a tiny Olympus RC rangefinder for giggles!!)

 

[RichardJack]

I'm worse than you guys. I've been rebuying every camera and lens that I ever owned or handled since 1969. I was forced to sell off most of them for one reason or another and miss them. I'm also buying lenses that I always wanted but couldn't afford. I'm not letting them collect dust, I take a different camera and lens kit with me every day and enjoy processing B&W and scanning 35mm-6x7. I guess I'm nuts, but having a grand old time. Probably over 75 bodies and over 300 lenses. Only 2 or 3 aftermarket, those I gave away.

 

[cooltouch]

Richard, I don't have the collection size you do, but our attitudes and experiences are pretty much alike. I've reacquired just about all the cameras I was forced to sell -- and then some -- and almost all the lenses, but I've bought a bunch more I never had before. So I'm in total agreement with you -- except for one point. I have several favorite aftermarket optics that I believe are every bit as good, if not better than, those made by the principals. To name a few: Vivitar Series 1 28-90mm f/2.8-3.5, Vivitar 35mm f/1.9, Vivitar 135mm f/2.8 Close Focus, Tamron 24mm f/2.5, Tamron 90mm f/2.5 macro, Tamron 300mm f/2.8 LDIF, Tokina 100-300mm f/4. And a few more, but that's enough for now.

 

[jernejk]

Not exactly on topic... but that one time I took my old darkroom equipment to the junkyard . Two enlargers, plenty of accessories. The reasoning was that I didn't have space for it anyway (which was true at the time) and I was moving... so... to the junkyard it went. I've since replaced it, with a better enlarger, too. But still...

 

[dasBlute]

so wait, you people *sell* gear? Once I've got it, it's *mine*, I worked too hard to get it, and will use it till the wheels fall off

 

[Old-N-Feeble]

so wait, you people *sell* gear? Once I've got it, it's *mine*, I worked too hard to get it, and will use it till the wheels fall off

Sometimes, we have no other choice but to sell things.

 

[dasBlute]

ok, so now I feel kinda arrogant, apologies and hope you get all the equipment you deserve...

Sometimes, we have no other choice but to sell things.

 

[Sirius Glass]

Richard, I don't have the collection size you do, but our attitudes and experiences are pretty much alike. I've reacquired just about all the cameras I was forced to sell -- and then some -- and almost all the lenses, but I've bought a bunch more I never had before. So I'm in total agreement with you -- except for one point. I have several favorite aftermarket optics that I believe are every bit as good, if not better than, those made by the principals. To name a few: Vivitar Series 1 28-90mm f/2.8-3.5, Vivitar 35mm f/1.9, Vivitar 135mm f/2.8 Close Focus, Tamron 24mm f/2.5, Tamron 90mm f/2.5 macro, Tamron 300mm f/2.8 LDIF, Tokina 100-300mm f/4. And a few more, but that's enough for now.

I agree with a caveat: I had a Vivitar 85mm to 205mm pre Series I zoom lens that was less than lackluster in performance. After Vivitar launched Series I aftermarket lenses, in general were on par with the manufacturers. Another exception is that the coatings on the Rokkor lenses produced brighter lenses than the aftermarket lenses.