True. All bets are off if it's not P30 that was used for Raging Bull as I understood AZD to have meant when he mentioned it
pentaxuser
Raging Bull was shot with several different Eastman B&W films: 5222-XX, 7222, Eastman Plus-X 80D/64T 5231/7231 Neg Films..
Watching Raging Bull won't tell you much about P30 since it was shot on Kodak Double-X. You'll need to watch a Fellini film like La dolce Vita or 8½. I am not sure how you will know what objects are red in the film, unless perhaps you are familiar with Italian road signs from the early 1960s.
Regarding comparing P30 and PanF...no I haven't directly compared the two in 120 because P30 is not available in 120 yet. I am predicting that P30 will open up new avenues in 120 when it does launch.
By the way, Ferrania insists P30 is an ISO 80 film:
"Shoot at 80 ISO. We firmly recommend shooting this film at the box speed of 80 ISO."
On the contrary....when I use P30 it is because it is virtually grain free even in 135.
Based on the official ORWO representative's very recent post, it would appear that it is serious about producing colour film. Its size and resources would seem to indicate that it may get there more quickly than Ferrania
pentaxuser
Who wants to bet that Ferrania's color film will be ready at exactly the same time as Orwo's is available?
Nah, I will bet that Ferrania will never ever come with any colour film....Who wants to bet that Ferrania's color film will be ready at exactly the same time as Orwo's is available?
Who wants to bet that Ferrania's color film will be ready at exactly the same time as Orwo's is available?
ORWO announced E-6 film?
Ferrania announced C-41 film?
Are you suggesting P30 is someone else's film? Because, if so, you are going to burst more than a few bubbles around here.No, not necessarily. I could 100% see them offering orwo's ECN2 film with their branding, like they did with their Alpha films.
Are you suggesting P30 is someone else's film? Because, if so, you are going to burst more than a few bubbles around here.
As I remember, Ferrania coated the film and then had a third party put it in spools because they had yet to fix their spooling machine.Ferrania themselves said they worked with a partner to produce P30a/P30. In my podcast I spoke with the US rep for orwo and he confirmed that the Ferrania folks got help from orwo in delivering their B&W film. I don't know the details but the subtext was that p30a was n74+
That won't work for type 135. No place to get it developed.No, not necessarily. I could 100% see them offering orwo's ECN2 film with their branding, like they did with their Alpha films.
You realize UN54 is a solid ISO 100 emulsion, P30 on the other hand can't even reach 80?Ferrania themselves said they worked with a partner to produce P30a/P30. In my podcast I spoke with the US rep for orwo and he confirmed that the Ferrania folks got help from orwo in delivering their B&W film. I don't know the details but the subtext was that p30a was UN54
This is why you don't want to listen to podcasts of random guys on the internet.You realize UN54 is a solid ISO 100 emulsion, P30 on the other hand can't even reach 80?
Yeah maybeAs I remember, Ferrania coated the film and then had a third party put it in spools because they had yet to fix their spooling machine.
You don't have to listen to me. You can listen to the orwo rep I was talking to and make your own conclusions.This is why you don't want to listen to podcasts of random guys on the internet.
I don't know the details but the subtext was that p30a was n74+
Seems a lot more plausible than your suspicion that P30, which as noted struggles to reach ISO 80, is actually N74+, an ISO 400 film.Yeah maybe
Sounds exciting, especially if its an E6 film!Based on the official ORWO representative's very recent post, it would appear that it is serious about producing colour film. Its size and resources would seem to indicate that it may get there more quickly than Ferrania
pentaxuser
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