Anecdotal evidence to the contrary, male privilege is widespread. Do you honestly think your situation isn't the exception?
Let me tell you about Male Priviledge: I raised my son by myself, and never received so much as a cent in child support from his mother, because the local prosecutor at the time, a woman, simply refused to enforce child support orders against women. If I had been ordered to pay child support and didn't pay, I'd have been in prison.
I agree. Some people are natural leaders and will make more money than others. Some people are great actors or salespeople. Men and women like different types of jobs in many cases. We all have different qualities and we all serve a purpose to God. You don't have to be rich to be a good person or love and care for your family, male or female. We've gotten into a situation where we pit group against group. class against class, race against race, male vs. female. It's very destructive to society and to individuals.Dividing a room into oppressors and victims is a terrible way to frame society. Some males are privileged, some are not. Some women are privileged, some are not. Attractive people are incredibly privileged compared to plain ones. Would we have beautiful people put a bag over their head to make the ugly ones feel less bad? Rich people give up their Leicas so iPhone photographers aren't jealous? I'm neither rich nor good looking.
Take for example Gursky, or the bullshit wanker known as Richard Prince. Gursky is big color, Prince is big bullshit. I'm far more concerned about the people who -do- take all the considerations and time in the world to iron out an idea that was poorly conceived in the first place. Let the bad ideas bleed quickly, so that the photographers/artists producing them can evolve their talent to a higher level.
but I think you are wrong about Richard Prince. True, he's not much of a photographer, but he really is an excellent artist.
Anecdotal evidence to the contrary, male privilege is widespread. Do you honestly think your situation isn't the exception?
Dividing a room into oppressors and victims is a terrible way to frame society. Some males are privileged, some are not. Some women are privileged, some are not. Attractive people are incredibly privileged compared to plain ones. Would we have beautiful people put a bag over their head to make the ugly ones feel less bad? Rich people give up their Leicas so iPhone photographers aren't jealous? I'm neither rich nor good looking.
Men and women are different physically and psychologically. That accounts for traditional responsibilities and authority at work and in the home that the sexes handle differently. Men have an advantage at work having competed there longer than women. On the other hand, women have more responsibility and authority in many cases at home where they control the rearing of children and keeping of the hearth. It's not as simple or as you make out or unfair.Unfortunately, 'priviledge' is different than you describe. All males have male priviledge. It has nothing to do with oppressors and victims. It has to do with societal habits that give advantage to males over females, reconizing them, and evening the playing field. Common examples of male priviledge; being able to take a walk by yourself on the beach at night. Not having to think twice about getting on an elevator that has just a man in it. Having ones sexual health care coverage decided by ones own gender. Having your imput given greater consideration than women's at business meetings, and so on.
Denying or ignoring male priviledge is a terrible way to maintain our society...but very easy for males to do. The staus quo is fine and dandy, eh?
That's palpably untrue. My father worked 12 hour shifts, five and a half days a week, alternate weeks of nights and days after he returned from military service in WW2. Shortly before he retired such work patterns were made illegal. Facing bullets in war was not optional, and his work alternatives were limited by a young family. Apart from war the society he lived was fairly stable, employment for men and women was plentiful (post WW2). Women walked unaccompanied through cities. Towns were well policed, homicide was rare enough to make front page news of national newspapers.All males have male priviledge.
Men and women are not that different. Using that excuse is an over-complication. And points to another male priviledge. Present work patterns, and business practises have been designed by and for a male workforce...thus, for example, the lack of constructively working maternity leave and child care into the business culture. Males have had the priviledge of not having to choose between a job or a family.Men and women are different physically and psychologically. That accounts for traditional responsibilities and authority at work and in the home that the sexes handle differently. Men have an advantage at work having competed there longer than women. On the other hand, women have more responsibility and authority in many cases at home where they control the rearing of children and keeping of the hearth. It's not as simple or as you make out or unfair.
If you want to institute change, I suggest removing middle and upper class privilege is more likely to even out society than gender. Marxism has much to commend it, if you ignore all the places it's been tried.Reconizing male priviledge is part of that change -- not to punish men or lable them as oppressors, but to start the discussion about what the changes can and will be.
Most women would prefer being mothers and homemakers rather than having to compete in the workplace. Frankly, rearing children so they grow up healthy, educated and wise is more important than some job working for Macy's as a floor manager. Of course divorce has contributed to the need for women to work and punished children in the process. But that's another societal problem that people ignore. I agree that it's fair for people doing the same job should get paid the same. But there still has to be room to reward some people more regardless of sex for doing a better job within the same job title.Men and women are not that different. Using that excuse is an over-complication. And points to another male priviledge. Present work patterns, and business practises have been designed by and for a male workforce...thus, for example, the lack of constructively working maternity leave and child care into the business culture. Males have had the priviledge of not having to choose between a job or a family.
We are not talking about the world of the post-WWII when women were only given the right to vote a generation before, race laws still common, and we were the last ones standing strong economically after over a decade of world war. Since we cannot go back to that, society will need to adjust to the new concepts of equality that are evolving. Systems created in earlier times that have elements that favor one gender or race over others will slowly change. Reconizing male priviledge is part of that change -- not to punish men or lable them as oppressors, but to start the discussion about what the changes can and will be.
Fun fact: The f64 group was one of the first artist movements that included women as active members.
My situation is a fact.
Funny how that happens.How did a thread about cropping become a diatribe on gender politics?
Most women would prefer being mothers and homemakers rather than having to compete in the workplace. Frankly, rearing children so they grow up healthy, educated and wise is more important than some job working for Macy's as a floor manager. Of course divorce has contributed to the need for women to work and punished children in the process. But that's another societal problem that people ignore. I agree that it's fair for people doing the same job should get paid the same. But there still has to be room to reward some people more regardless of sex for doing a better job within the same job title.
dude it was about how those women are running everything in the art worldHow did a thread about cropping become a diatribe on gender politics?
Yeah, jumped threads. My mind is working even slower than usual this morning. I'll get another cup of coffee and try again.dude it was about how those women are running everything in the art world
not about cropping, get with the program !
I agree, many women feel that the traditional nuclear family is best for them...while realizing that many do not. Equal pay for equal work, and equal opportunity in society are worthwhile goals, and part of that is the elimination of artificial barriers.Most women would prefer being mothers and homemakers rather than having to compete in the workplace. Frankly, rearing children so they grow up healthy, educated and wise is more important than some job working for Macy's as a floor manager. Of course divorce has contributed to the need for women to work and punished children in the process. But that's another societal problem that people ignore. I agree that it's fair for people doing the same job should get paid the same. But there still has to be room to reward some people more regardless of sex for doing a better job within the same job title.
i guess, if you call appropriating other people's work as his own art ?
he's the marlboro man guy and the person who published other people's instagram photos in an installation ( without their permission )?
i'd take absolutely anything cindysherman has done in the last IDK 50 years, her film untitled film stills to HER current instagram selfies included
if anyone's a w@n--er its someone who takes other people's work and claims it as their own ... sorry ...
Yikes! I forgot about the Richard Prince "appropriations." I don't think much of them either, but I've seen other work that I thought to be excellent. As for Cindy Sherman, you'd probably win the financial race with her. And I agree that the "film stills," which put her on the map, are pretty good. But much of the rest of her stuff is just plain ugly.
I agree, many women feel that the traditional nuclear family is best for them...while realizing that many do not. Equal pay for equal work, and equal opportunity in society are worthwhile goals, and part of that is the elimination of artificial barriers.
Raising children is not women's work. It is the work of both parents and the society they belong in.
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