APUG.ORG to PHOTRIO.COM Migration, Final Details.

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    Hi Wayne, I did link to several posts discussing why we had to make this move and I understand it's hard to see the brand change for some. How would you feel pointing people to APUG and the site no longer exists? Or it's a site with 25 guys arguing about dilutions, while the analog crowd moved on to sites/social media that also support hybrid and digital? This was the reality. I wasn't prepared to let something we've built on for 15yrs evaporate or go out of business. We did what we had to do. So far, the new stats are exceeding my expectations and I am becoming hopeful we can keep this ship afloat. And we have not even been indexed by google or promoted the new site in any way. Today we are currently averaging a user registration 4x that of APUG, I haven't seen numbers like that in 10yrs. I keep getting private messages and emails from people saying they have come back now that they can talk film AND hybrid or digital. That's a good thing imo.
     
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    this is great news !
     
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    I bought a tee earlier this year to support AIDS/HIV research - cost me $30. I was happy to pay that (sadly, the shipping was a price gouge).
    For me, it's not so much the cost of the individual item/s it's how much I get slugged for postage - it's a worldwide problem and whilst I don't expect it to be free, I expect it to be fair

    Case in point, I wanted to purchase a small Memorial Cross from the RBL in the UK (and make an additional donation) - cost to post such a small item was going to be GBP28!!! Suffice to say, they lost the sale and the extra donation.
     
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    And this says it all.

    How often do we hear of businesses (big and small) shutting up shop because they took waaaaaaaay to long to adapt to their customer wants? (Could Kodak could be named in that "elite" group perhaps to a point.):whistling:

    I'm amazed at how many digital/hybrid posts are popping up (yes I watch all 3 threads - I want to keep abreast of all things photographic) with information that I've been after for many years. And looking at some of these threads, I can see how dormant they've been until this migration - suddenly they are like rabbits, breeding responses left, right and centre!!

    And amongst all these answers there are a lot of regular APUG users that I guess I didn't expect to be chiming in, yet they are giving advice freely AND asking questions.

    The APUG product was great and met the needs of many analog only photographers out there, but it needed to adapt to the market climate. More and more people are switching to both analog & digital or just want to be able to discuss "Scanning to make a good image to post online" without being hounded to death, for asking such a "blasphemous" question.

    If all members want, is to see analog uncheck the boxes at the top that say "hybrid" & "digital" - APUG is still there, it has just been rebranded to make it more welcoming to those people who aren't quite so enlightened to where photography came from, and that it's more than a selfie with an iPhone. If the name change is the *only* thing that is bugging members - might I suggest you all take a step back from the computer screen and have a look at what's happening in the world right now, to regain some perspective.:wink:

    In the grand scheme of things, renaming a website, a brand, or a 5* hotel group is so low on the "world problems scale", they don't even rate a mention.
     
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    $20-$25 wouldn't be excessive for a specialty shirt that's "cool".

    Long ago, I think I paid that much for an "Island Hoppers" shirt (from Magnum P.I. television program). It's my most prized shirt.
     
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    Crazy as it seems, you pay about $25 for regular Levis tees in Australia (and they aren't the greatest quality).
     
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    I went to Grand Teton and Yellowstone this June and bought T-shirts ranging from $17 to $28. I bought a few National Park T-shirts through teespring.com after we got back and they were $25. I'd buy an APUG one or a Photrio one (maybe both).

    If you're at all interested, I drew up a design I've never had printed that has outlines of different film types and says "Yes, I can still get film for this." If I knew how to screenprint, I'd do it myself, but I don't. You can use it if you want.
     
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    This skirts all of my points though. I get all of that. Why was the APUG (brand) name and concept kicked to the curb? That could have been retained while everything else about the new site moved forward.
     
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    I addressed that in the other thread you posted in if you want to check there. Thanks
     
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    I'd pay 25 bucks for one, for what it's worth! Are there places that let you sell shirts 'print on demand' these days, to save you needing to deal with stock or shipping?

    (Ideally one which was worldwide & could print and dispatch from somewhere on the same continent at least as the purchaser, to keep shipping costs reasonable.) I'm gonna assume such businesses must exist and I'm feeling dumb for not knowing who they are...
     
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    YES.
     
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    Been setting one up already, got a bit tedious so put it off a few days until more bugs are squashed..
     
  13. $20US to $25US and clearly state that it helps support Photrio.
     
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    I don't see how retaining the APUG identity for the analog-only section could possibly detract from or interfere with the overall success of the new site. I think you are wrong about that. It feels like a betrayal and abaondonment of the (hard)core group and core values that started it all, especially because it seems so unnecessary and especially because its NOT the way you described it was going to be. Not at all.

    It may be true that APUG wouldn't have survived without the other 2 sections but its also true that this site wouldn't even be here without APUG and it has been dissolved. I hope you will reconsider this and give analog-only users the option to remain the Analog Photography Users Group. It was a great idea 15 years ago, and it still is. Maybe even more so now.
     
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    I think this ship has sailed, Wayne.
     
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    ...and very seaworthy, ready for battle!! :D
     
  18. The ship sailed out of the train station and disappeared down the tracks.
     
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    I am NOT a "wealthy" person.....i was a painter. But my experience.?......People are CHEAP...!!
    On a $10,000.00 job, they will hire San Francisco's worst Paint Contractor, just because their price was $9,657.00.
    400 Stupid dollars...!!
    You could have had Rembrandt, but you hired his neighbor because he saved you 400 bux...??
    Anyway....... I say F those people. if the shirts need to be $32.50.....just say so.
    Good Luck to you and your new efforts here.
     
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    +1 (Elsa said it best . . . )
     
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    I come across about 5 film photographers a year (many other here do even less). So who to advertise on?
     
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    Can I make a suggestion for a floating "TOP" link? I know there's one at the bottom of the page, but it is a little annoying when you have to scroll all the way to the bottom to go to the top. Not a dealbreaker, but a nice touch when you're halfway down a page.:wink:
     
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    Nice idea. Though at least on a computer it just means pressing the cursur for a second at top of the scroll bar. Practically no difference to such special button.
    But I would not mind another button.
     
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    I just use the Home and End keys on the keyboard. I imagine a floater would help people with phones and tablets.
     
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    First, The new site is exactly as Sean said it would be, so no deception there. Second, on my screen, it says APUG right there in the upper left corner. Third, If you select the Analog box only, the website will deliver you all the same content in the same format as before. Fourth, no one is forcing you to come here if you don't like it. Fifth, grow up.
     
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    Actually it doesn't seem like you are. Just call the analog section APUG, let us keep our identifty/brand as the group that started it all and without which none of us would be here, and be done with it. I doubt that analog-only site users will object, and none of the hybrid or Digital only people will ever see it. And for crying out loud it isn't going to "confuse" anyone.
     
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